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Israel strikes Iran

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  1. Orange_and_Bluke

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    Can anyone briefly summarize what the hell is happening with Iran and Israel?
    Thread is a bit murky and news seems sparse…or is it just me?
    Thanks!!
     
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  2. dynogator

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    Check back in two weeks, for Trump's big Reveal.

    In the meantime, I think both countries are bombing the crap out of each other until they run out of ordnance.
     
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  3. vegasfox

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    The quote about how to conduct war the Jewish way was from a Chabsd sect rabbi from Minnesota. The thread was about the Chabad sect and their extreme and increasingly popular beliefs, not Jews or various Jewish religious beliefs in general. Chabad is the fastest growing segment of the Jewish religion, opening up a new Chanad learning center on average every 10 days. When a rabbi advocates killing innocent women and children it should be condemned.

    According to a Pew Research poll I saw in March 2024, 62% of American Jews approvr of how Israel is handling the situation in Gaza. Seems like the percentage among Jews in Israel might have been higher.

    As for how Netanyahu is conducting operations in Gaza, i.e. the dehumanization, starvation and ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, the parallels with what happened in Germany are obvious. The true sin is to say nothing as tens of thousands are executed and starve..
     
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  4. vegasfox

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    I think the video makes solid points. I reposted it. It was deleted because of a comment attached to it by an X poster that I overlooked.
     
  5. G8tas

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    How much do you want our defense spending to increase as a result of this? The GOP proposed a new budget of $2 trillion? Do you want it to go to $2.5 trillion?
     
  6. ajoseph

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    You need to download TikTok…
     
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  7. vegasfox

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    Gaddafi gave up his nuclear ambitions and got stuck with a bayonet in an unfortunate place. So it's understandable that Iran would want nukes and never give them up. Nonetheless this is a fair comment:
     
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    Unfortunately Fordow is ~200 km away.
     
  9. ajoseph

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    Hypocrisy? Ukraine gave up not a nuclear program, but an actual nuclear arsenal, in exchange for guarantees of peace from Russia. Yet, you openly cheer for Russia’s aggression against Ukraine. That sure comes across as hypocrisy.
     
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  10. ETGator

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    This is one aspect that really bothers me. There is no good answer I've yet heard as to why Iran was struck while negotiations were ongoing and just days before a significant session was scheduled. If President Trump didn't know about it (which he has now claimed he did -- fully briefed) that's one huge problem. If he did know about it which, again, he claims he was fully briefed, he owns part of the sneak attack and nobody will ever trust him or his administration in negotiations again.
     
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  11. PITBOSS

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  12. vegasfox

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    We can:t Israel of drag us into a war with Iran
     
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  13. slocala

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    Did your account get hacked?:eek:
     
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  14. ajoseph

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    There’s multiple reports that Iran all reached the level it needed to reach, complete enrichment was imminent. Trump gave Iran a strict timeline —60 days— to reach a deal. Israel attacked in the 61st day, a fact Trump broadly boasted. Regardless, Iran’s program reached the point where Israel could not wait any more to protect itself against the inevitability of Iran achieving nuclear power.
     
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  15. vegasfox

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    The United States dragged Ukraine into a war with Russia. Russia's 3 red lines were violated. Ukraine attacked ethnic Russians in violation of the Minsk accords. The US should never have removed the democratically elected Ukrainian president in 2014. And the US and NATO should never have schemed to start a proxy war to split Russia into several different countries.

    Most Ukrainians don't care much about Eastern Ukraine anyway. It was part of Russia until the early 1920's
     
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  16. duchen

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    There is a good answer. The negotiation scheduled for the Sunday before the strikes was a ruse to lull Iran into a false sense there would not he a strike. This has been admitted in open source reporting. Trump admitted that he was involved in the ruse.
     
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  17. duchen

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    The man is an outright liar. Israel does not use the Iron Done against ballistic missiles.
     
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  18. duchen

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    More anti-American Russian propaganda. I think it best to join the long line of posters here who ignore your posts.
     
  19. uftaipan

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    That is a fact. The Iron Dome is designed take out rockets and mortars. For ballistic missiles, you need to use Patriots or THAAD. They are not integrated into Iron Dome. Of course, if I was a retired colonel, ostensibly with a War College degree, who posted publicly about matters like these and expected other people to quote me as an expert, then I would understand basic facts like that.

    Edit: Apparently, even though it is not designed to take out ballistic missiles, it has taken out some of the ones that have gotten by the other systems. The Israelis are using it as kind of a close-in weapons system of last resort.
     
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  20. vaxcardinal

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    Reporting in Israel was that missiles were taking a couple minutes less time to arrive than before and causing more damage so sounds like they’re using different missiles yesterday
     
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