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Israel strikes Iran

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by g8orbill, Jun 12, 2025 at 8:36 PM.

  1. CaptUSMCNole

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    How do you get to the idea that following the IRBO equals:

    Translation: The US should not be constrained by international law.

    Our rules. No order.
     
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  5. vaxcardinal

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    Looks to me like the beltway everyday
     
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    Mike Pence was right on queue with saying that he wants us to help our most "cherished" ally
     
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    When the US and other NATO countries say they follow the rules based order it's understood that that means they follow the international law when it is convenient and when it's not they do what they want.

    Examples
    1) Blowing up the Notd Stream pipeline
    2) Arming Al Qaeda in Syria.
    3) Backing Abdelhakim Belhadj in Libya to overthrow Qaddafi. His Libyan Islamic Fighting Group merged with Al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghteb in 2007
    4) The Biden administration backed the genocidal terrorists in Ethiopia known as the Tigrayan Peoples Liberation Front
    5) The US gave aid to Chechen terrorists in Russia
    6) Selling 2000 pound bombs to Israel which will be used for genocide/ethnic cleansing

    Another example involving France in the image below Screenshot_20250615-174558~2.png
     
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    Look at Israel's attack on Iran which I think must have had at least a wink and a nod from the US. There was supposed to be another round of negotiations. Is there no room for diplomacy in today's world or is there only war and force?
     
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  14. vaxcardinal

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    Iran was just stalling as they continue to enhance their capabilities. Israel should continue to pound Iran until there’s a regime change
     
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  15. duchen

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    The discussions concerning the 4th round of negotiations were a ruse to lull Iran. This is widely publicized.

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/how-a...n-lulled-iran-into-a-false-sense-of-security/

    As should be evident from Israel's execution of events in Lebanon and now Iran, its intelligence is spot on.

    In post 236, I linked an analysis of the recent IEAA report. Analysis of IAEA Iran Verification and Monitoring Report — May 2025 | Institute for Science and International Security

    Here are 4 paragraphs from its findings, all indicating that Iran was soon to develop a nuclear weapon.

    • Iran can convert its current stock of 60 percent enriched uranium into 233 kg of WGU in three weeks at the Fordow Fuel Enrichment Plant (FFEP), enough for 9 nuclear weapons, taken as 25 kg of weapon-grade uranium (WGU) per weapon.
    • Iran could produce its first quantity of 25 kg of WGU in Fordow in as little as two to three days.
    • Breaking out in both Fordow and the Natanz Fuel Enrichment Plant (FEP), the two facilities together could produce enough WGU for 11 nuclear weapons in the first month, enough for 15 nuclear weapons by the end of the second month, 19 by the end of the third month, 21 by the end of the fourth month, and 22 by the end of the fifth month.
    • Iran has no civilian use or justification for its production of 60 percent enriched uranium, particularly at the level of hundreds of kilograms. Its rush to make much more, quickly depleting its stock of near 20 percent enriched uranium, which has a civilian use in research reactors, raises more questions. Even if one believed the production of 60 percent is to create bargaining leverage in a nuclear negotiation, Iran has gone way beyond what would be needed. One has to conclude that Iran’s real intent is to be prepared to produce large quantities of WGU as quickly as possible, in as few centrifuges as possible
    Israel is changing the face of the Middle East. Its destabilization of Hezbollah has produced a government in Syria that is reaching out to the US. Hezbollah is so weak that it listened to the Lebanese government and did not involve itself in the Israel-Iran war. Iran is isolated and weak and getting weaker every day.

    Assad's Syria, Hezbollah and Iran-- all enemies of American with American blood on their hands. Did you want Iran to have a nuclear weapon? The same nation that chant "Death to America"?

    The regional war everyone feared has happened and the free world is better for it.
     
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    I think the attack is all about regime change. DNI Tulsi Gabbard said back in March that Iran wasn't pursuing a nuclear weapon. Iran may already have nukes. They had a secret joint program with North Korea to build nukes per Yossef Bodansky. Some believe Iran got 4 nukes from Kazakhstan in December 1991. Some (including a former Iranian diplomat who worked with Greg Copley and Yossef Bodansky) say Iran bought nukes from Ukraine when the USSR broke up. The Russian General Staff stated that Russia never got all their nukes back from Ukraine. Former CIA analyst Ray McGovern is fairly prominent on X. Ray says Iran wasn't trying to build a nuke. I think a deal could have been worked out involving Russian monitoring of Iran's program. Iran has the right to have nuclear power plants
     
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    Excellent post. I still favored negotiations
     
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    Or it could be what Netanyahu said…they stand behind their intelligence
     
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    The attack by Israel could be totally justified. Iran made their bed by heavily enriching their uranium. You, Duchene, Oklahoma and everyone else who support this attack could be right. Sometimes negotiations are going to fail.

    I would have tried more diplomacy but maybe that would have been a wrong move.
     
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    Well, Iran cancelled the meeting that was to be held today:eek:
     
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