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Discussion in 'GatorGrowl's Diamond Gators' started by wild4softball, Jun 22, 2022.

  1. alysb21

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    I wonder what we have coming in now. There was a lot of chatter about Channel and that didnt happen. There was a lot of chatter abkut Pannell so im sure that won't happen either.
     
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  2. ocalaman

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    But that was my point. You make valid suggestions about what the NCAA COULD have tried or implemented, yet they did nothing. And now ANYTHING that restricts a college player's ability to go where they want when they want without punishment and make whatever amount of money they want will end up in litigation that the players will in all likelihood win. As far as tampering restrictions, those rules are in place for schools and their employees, but the NIL groups who are not legally tied to the universities found the loophole and took advantage. Can or will the NCAA try to punish the school for something an independent group did? They don't have the guts to try and if they did they would probably lose in court. Your ideas about requiring a player to have valid reasons for transferring and making them sit out have already been shot down by the courts. https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/30/sport/ncaa-drop-transfer-rule-division-i-athletes-justice-department Common sense no longer applies when dealing with judges and the legal system anymore, as has been made painfully aware to all of us over the last 6 months or so. And I highly doubt Texas Tech is the first to do the NIL groups tampering thing. You don't think Oklahoma supporter groups and probably others have been making early contact ever since NIL came about? It's just that Texas Tech has been so brazen about it that people are complaining so much.I'm pretty sure we both agree with what each other is saying. There is no such thing as amateur athletics anymore and the NCAA has a large share of the blame. However, the law now is that college athletes are free agents to do what they want.
     
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  3. ocalaman

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    Yeah, it's starting to get a little worrisome, as there are very few "elite" players left in the portal. But we shall see fairly shortly who else, if anybody, we're going to get. Fingers crossed.

    Dakota Jennings, OF from Arizona, is the top-rated player left, but she's supposedly down to Texas Tech, UCLA & Texas. Amari Harper, infoelder from Texas A&M is rated pretty highCorner Infielder/DP Reagan Jennings from Texas Tech is still available. Middle infielder freshman Paislie Allen from Georgia is out there,as is middle infielder Brooke Wells from Houston and OF Char Lorenz from Louisville. These are probably among the top portal players left, but I haven't seen Florida's name linked with any of them.
     
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  4. paidinfull

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    Tech is definitely not the first ones to do this. Football coaches have been whining about it for years already. This is not a new phenomena.

    I would all but guarantee our football, baseball, and basketball teams are communicating through backchannels. If softball isn’t, they’re just handicapping themselves.
     
  5. alysb21

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    Theres still chatter about Hailey Toney entering from Tech. I kinda feel like we may be in the conversation for Amari Harper. It's just a feeling. Nothing to base it on. Or Tennessee for her since they lost Pannell. Dakota Kennedy would be nice but we jsut dont need another outfielder. Not if we want Cassidy to have a shot
     
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  6. 74nole

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    With regards to the portal—I get it that it can be a very good option for an athlete who has signed out of high school and a season later feels that he/she made a mistake in their decision.

    Pass that I feel like it’s nothing more than a money game since NIL hit the field.

    I know I’m ol’school and actually I’m proud that I am. But I still think that an athlete’s word as well as his/her commitment should carry its own weight. What I’m saying is your commitment/word has got to mean more than NIL $$$ showing up at the end of every single season.
     
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  7. alysb21

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    Looking at her career so far again im really happy about the Madison Walker pickup. Very good defender. And the bat definitely has pop.
     
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  8. paidinfull

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  9. orangeblue77

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    At some point last offseason I said the NIL in its present state is an unregulated Wild West, I was mocked. Someone even sent me a private message saying how stupid I was lol.
     
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  10. paidinfull

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    It has been mostly unregulated since the supreme court ruling. Some states tried to put restrictions on it, FL did, but I think all them have pretty much backed off at this point. This ruling isn’t going to put any cats back into any bags either. Biggest thing this ruling is doing is allowing the schools to pay directly. That’s one of the only things that may hold up. Some states already allowed this and even went so far as to get restraining orders against the ncaa to prevent them from trying to stop it.

    Whoever argued it wasn’t the wild west wasn’t paying attention. Name names. Show receipts.

    *I see four mentions in your history of the wild west. Don’t see where anyone disputed it. I explained to you why NIL would not be regulated, and one of the secret softball society members took some shots at you for not knowing the intricacies of softball NIL, but don’t see where anyone claimed NIL was well regulated.
     
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  11. alysb21

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    I see on another forum that Bailey Lindemuth from Tech is supposedly entering the portal.
    Also are any of you on robo? Check out the florida thread lol. I think mama Williams or mama decker is posting there
     
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    I don’t even know what robo is so please copy and paste the comedy show for us! I’m the proud new owner of a Sam’s club sized box of popcorn so I’m ready!
     
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    Wild West could get worse. The way things are going with contact and deals by the “Bag Men”, the portal could become useless. BTW, I’m not sure it is legal anyway. Players should have the rights to test the waters without jeopardizing thei current position. Most of us have looked for other positions without informing our employers.
     
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    Gonna guess you’re about the same age as my pops. Alan is about my age. I was raised in a similar manner and mostly share your sentiments. On almost all matters you opine on really.

    At this time, I’m blaming the adults in the room equally as much as the kids. I have a hard time saying kids should turn away life changing money to stick by their commitment to a school that will be trying to recruit over them for their entire career. Especially in softball. There is a pro league now, but there’s still no money in it. Now is the time for them to cash in. The adults have poisoned the sanctity of the sport as much or more than the kids who are looking out for themselves.

    The days of working for one company for your entire career and being rewarded with a retirement package are pretty much behind us. There’s no loyalty on either side anymore. So…I don’t really blame the kids hopping around anymore than I blame a person who hops from job to job. I worked for the same company for 20 years, but mostly because I was in a niche position there and was well compensated. I wasn’t rewarded for being loyal, in fact one of my managers spoke about firing me every week in their managers meetings, not because I wasn’t good at my job, but because he couldn’t stand how irreplaceable I was. They didn’t have a retirement plan for us and regularly fired people who were approaching their position caps just to hire someone cheaper.

    It’s just the way of the world today. The things I was taught growing up just don’t really exist anymore, and if you go out of your way to be loyal, you’re likely to be rewarded with the person or place where you placed your loyalty stabbing you in the back anyway. Gotta look out for yourself, because hardly anyone else is going to be looking out for you. For a lot of these kids, even their families don’t have their best interest at heart.

    It’s a tough pill to swallow, and maybe I’m just cynical (ok I’m definitely cynical), but to me it just seems that’s what it is. Do you and screw everyone else.
     
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  15. paidinfull

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    We’ve seen at least one football player move outside of the portal window this offseason, so we may get to see this theory on the legality here tested pretty soon. The school he left is publicly saying they are fighting it. We also have some schools saying they’re going to pursue getting their NIL money back from athletes who signed and then immediately went somewhere else.

    This kids are in school and the portal windows coincide with the school semester periods, so moving during the windows isn’t a huge deal for most. If you’re a graduate, you can move whenever you want already. While an athlete enrolled and playing at one school isn’t technically allowed to communicate with the staff at another school, back channeling can’t really be stopped or regulated. So the communication issue isn’t really a huge deal either. They can pretty easily test the waters without entering the portal as it is. If it’s challenged in court, I think the athletes win, because they’re winning everything right now. I just don’t know how necessary it is for them to challenge it as there is a simple workaround already in place.
     
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    Everything, everywhere can and likely will get worse. I know it doesn’t sound like it but I swear I’m an optimist.
     
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    That’s good information. BTW 73/42.
     
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  18. ocalaman

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    Yeah - I saw that thing about Coach Walton. That site is full of bogus information, but I still check it out from time to time.
     
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    Share with the rest of us
     
  20. ocalaman

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    Nah. Shouldn't be on a credible forum like this one.