US Senator detained and cuffed at DHS press conference

Come on, you should value the internet experts here since they know better

 

Apparently you do, because chatgpt identified "Veteran Secret Service and Capitol Police trainers" who disagree with your assessment.

Here's the better o3 model assessment:

Short answer: No — under established protective-service protocols, the Department of Homeland Security Secretary’s security detail should never have tackled, forced to the floor, and hand-cuffed a sitting U.S. senator who chairs the committee that oversees their agency, especially after he verbally identified himself.

What the reporting shows

• During a 12 June 2025 press conference at the Wilshire Federal Building in Los Angeles, Senator Alex Padilla (D-CA) asked Secretary Kristi Noem a question about immigration raids. Video shows agents immediately pushing Padilla backward, wrestling him to the floor in the corridor, and cuffing him; he was released a few minutes later reuters.comnpr.org.
  
  
• DHS and FBI spokespeople later claimed agents “thought he was an attacker” because Padilla was not wearing his Senate lapel pin and had “lunged” toward the podium reuters.com. Multiple camera angles reviewed by major outlets show no lunge; Padilla identifies himself within seconds while still several feet away washingtonpost.com.

Why the detail should have known better
Protocol expectation What apparently happened Problem
Advance de-confliction. Protective teams share guest lists and VIP movements before an event. Padilla’s presence (he was waiting elsewhere in the building for a scheduled DHS briefing) was not communicated to line agents. A basic coordination failure.
Visual/credential checks before force. Agents are taught to challenge, verify ID, and escalate only if threat indicators persist. Force was used within seconds of Padilla speaking; no attempt at calm verbal ID verification is visible on video. Violates standard rules of engagement.
Respect for oversight officials. Committee chairs and ranking members are treated as “known dignitaries” because they routinely question cabinet secretaries. Agents appeared unaware of Padilla’s role or ignored it. Indicates inadequate training or briefing.
Professional consensus
Veteran Secret Service and Capitol Police trainers interviewed by the Washington Post and Reuters (quoted anonymously) called the use of force “textbook mission creep” — confusing crowd-control reflexes with dignitary protection and ignoring the imperative to prevent friendly-fire incidents washingtonpost.comreuters.com.

Likely fallout

1. Internal after-action review by DHS Inspector General and Secret Service.
   
   
2. Bipartisan Senate inquiry into protective-detail training and inter-agency communications.
   
   
3. Refresher training orders for all cabinet-level details on identifying Members of Congress and other cleared officials.

Bottom line
Mistaking a plainly self-identified senator for a physical threat at a planned, credentialed press event reflects a breakdown in briefing, coordination, and judgment. Under normal federal protective-service standards, the incident should never have progressed past a polite “Yes, Senator, one moment, please.”

 

Being in the building is not the same thing as being expected in a room secured by a Cabinet Secretary's PSD.

 

With ET it is easy to understand. If it helps Trump then they are all for it, regardless if it is against the law

 

I believe this is what I have been saying:
Advance de-confliction. Protective teams share guest lists and VIP movements before an event. Padilla’s presence (he was waiting elsewhere in the building for a scheduled DHS briefing) was not communicated to line agents. A basic coordination failure.

So do you think those agents wanted to bring all this smoke on themselves knowing it was a US Senator, seeing the likely fallout quoted above?

 

They failed in *EVERY* aspect of what they were supposed to know and do in that particular situation, not just the coordination failure.

Apparently in the Trump administration you get your job by loyalty, not having actual ability and thinking for yourself - now we can see, YET AGAIN, for ourselves how that works.

We surely have a bigly list of 100s of thousand of dead Americans due to Trump's mismanagement of COVID, his two impeachments, 38 felonies, stolen secrets, and now innocent people being detained on the street without cause and American citizens deported to foreign prisons to add to the list - only 3.5 more years to go Trump supporters - what's the over/under for a full blown civil war?

 

Did they fail to put in the Protocol request to met with Noem? Did they fail to do advance de-confliction that they had no knowledge of?

You think the Trump Admin is giving out position at the GS-11/12 level?

 

Apparently, due to the inability of Trump to exist alongside inconvenient things like laws, oversight, facts, and truth, we don't have experts and professionals in key positions.

How long do you think it takes incompetence to worm its way down the chain?

Especially when loyalty is the coin of the realm, not competence.

Maybe they are hiring Proud Boys for details these days, since they can't find jobs otherwise after Trump pardoned them all and released them on the streets.

In other words, what should we expect EXCEPT extreme incompetence?

I mean we have a Secretary of Defence who's only qualification apparently was 'looking the part", having white nationalist tattoos, and being from a favorite Trump TV entertainment show....

a Secretary of Homeland Security who wishes she was on NCIS, kills her own pets, and is dumb as a rock to boot....

... and how can we forget little Marco, the Secretary of Fate, who congratulated Russia on "Russia Day" while they racked up a million WIA/KIA in their 3 day operation in Ukraine.

Oh, did I mention they aren't black or brown?

Should I go on?

Oh, he's just getting STARTED folks, we get 3.5 more years of this, if he doesn't keel over from the severe damage to his ear and the ongoing effects of Adderall and McDonald's abuse - chronic diaper rash from all the shit he creates and sits in 24/7.

Now we get to sit in it with him!

 

So you think Noem's entire PSD was hired off the street after the election, started training on Jan 21st, 2025, all graduated in under 4 months, and all ended up on the same PSD team? And no one with more than 6 months experience was on the team?

 

You really want to talk about competency, qualifications, and hiring rules in this Administration?

Just be glad Trump doesn't like clowns, we might have Bozo the Clown for Secretary of State - I mean, at least he'd know that Russia isn't our friend and we shouldn't congratulate them on "Russia Day" for their continued support of a dictator and his murderous reign in Russia and Ukraine, but "hire a clown, expect a circus" and all that...

But hey, he has the BEST qualification after all - he WAS on TV wasn't he?

 

No, I was stating what would be required for your assertion that entire PSD team are Trump loyalists to be accurate. The likelihood of that being true is very small.

Do you want to talk about this Admin’s agenda or how federal government hiring and training actually work. I’m happy to talk about the later.

 

They sure put on an amateur hour tonight!

Now, the next question is, do you think anything will happen because of it due to the fact Trump has removed all oversight from these organizations?

 

Get your story straight. Did he or didn’t he identify himself?

 

I already answered. Watch all the videos, not just the one

 

I saw how fast our "non-politiized" military became his overt political supporters when he visited Fort Bragg the other day.

How fast was that for you?

 

I doubt there will be an IG investigation. I’m sure there will be calls for a Congressional investigation but Republicans will not agree to it.

Do you think those agents will have their identities leaked in the next 18 months?

I think if Democrats take back the House in ‘26, this will be one of things they investigate.

 

How many times do I have to say I never voted for Trump?

 

You clearly are right that protective security has a job to do, and they do not want to jeopardize their government jobs. There is no question about that. However, I find it hard to believe that they don’t have the flexibility to address this type of unique situation. Chances are that every single person in that conference room knew that this guy was a United States senator. The room was filled with California reporters who would all know that this guy was a U.S. senator from California. Christy Noem and her staff would all have known who Padilla is. We have not seen video showing Padilla’s entrance into that room from the hall. So we do not know what he said to security as he was entering the room. It would seem likely that he would have identified himself as a United States senator and given them his name. It’s just common sense to me that there was incompetence on the part of the security detail to do what they did to this guy, which could have caused significant physical harm to him and has led to what is a major embarrassment to the Trump administration.

 

No shit, they were all fired.

Why do you think that is?

Exactly so that they can do shit like this and get away with it and score points with the base.

Apparently our military is now Trump's military, because they seem to want to carry his water these days.

 

I didn't accuse you of that - however - why do you feel the need to say you didn't?

The point I was trying to make is - people, even highly trained ones, can make assumptions about what is expected of them - especially when oversight is removed and they essentially become partisan.

Just like we saw at Bragg.