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Trump to deploy National Guard in response to Los Angeles immigration protests

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by pogba, Jun 7, 2025.

  1. WarDamnGator

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    Stop with your stupid lies. Not everyone is a brain dead MAGA zombie who falls for whatever info wars and the pillow guy told you to beleive…
     
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  2. mdgator05

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    My favorite part of the admission: there is a near endless supply of ICE agents because we spend an absolutely absurd amount on immigration controls, despite the claim of "open boarders."

    Uh, no. You are likely using the stats that don't contain the Title 42 removal data, which handled about half of all removals in 2021 and 2022 and a substantial chunk of them in 2023. And since they do removal data by fiscal year, you are likely looking at October 2024-June 2025.
     
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    Proven false, but that never deters Maga. Remind us of how many Maga crapped on desks, beat Leo and destroyed Federal property. But it was done for lies of the dear leader thus they were pardoned.
     
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  4. Tjgators

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    Jo is that you?
     
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  5. toprowgator

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    You're going to have to go after the contractors, not the developers. Same in the agricultural industry. Farmers pretty much only grow food these days. Everything from caretaking to harvesting is contracted out these days. If you have a large lawn service taking care of your property, are going to check the credentials of every lawn care employee who shows up on your property? I'm not, and I shouldn't have to if I've hired a licensed contractor.
     
  6. toprowgator

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    But it's on tape ...
     
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  7. toprowgator

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    Pardons due to nepotism don't count.
     
  8. toprowgator

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    Your immigration "point" makes no sense. I'm not even sure what you are trying to say.

    As for "likely" this and "likely" that, just show us the REAL numbers that you are claiming. Do you have an explanation as to why the Biden admin. decided to start deporting people in '24? This should be good.
     
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  9. PITBOSS

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    From Gov Newsom….

     
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  10. Gator515151

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    LMAO under your scenario the Muslim Brotherhood or BLM would have been looting and firebombing while seizing the capitol building.
     
  11. dynogator

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    You will never convince Trumpers that this is so.
     
  12. WarDamnGator

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    Yup….

     
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  13. coleg

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    Please Google search. Excerpt :
    "There are plenty of instances where rioters waltzed into the Capitol without a fight, but only after they had stormed past barricades and, in some cases, even stepped through broken windows. In some areas, police were so outnumbered by the mob that they retreated, stood aside or tried to politely engage with rioters to de-escalate the situation rather than fighting or making arrests, but that is clearly not the same as welcoming rioters into the building.

    Since we don’t have video of every single encounter between police and rioters, it’s theoretically possible that some tiny number of officers did invite rioters in. The Capitol Police announced in September that three officers were facing discipline for unspecified noncriminal “conduct unbecoming” that day, while three others were facing discipline for other policy violations."
     
  14. mdgator05

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    It is pretty simple. An assumption inherent in your question is that we could just send thousands of ICE agents to a place at a moments notice. I actually agree. Because we have an absolutely gigantic amount of ICE agents as ICE and CBP receive orders of magnitude more funding than any other federal law enforcement. The claims of "open boarders" were, thus, absurd.

    I am just trying to figure out why you got it so wrong, which is the "likely."

    But if you want the actual data so that you don't get it so wrong again, I am happy to provide it. Now, these are fiscal years, meaning that FY 2021 is October 2020-September 2021, FY 2022 is October 2021-September 2022, etc.

    Removals + Expulsions under Title 42
    2021: 96K
    2022: 126K
    2023: 190K
    2024: 272K
    2025: 71K

    It is unlikely that they will reach the 2022 numbers (Biden's first full year) in FY 2025 without a fairly significant increase in speed. Almost no chance that they will hit FY 2023 or FY 2024 numbers. They will likely be near the FY 2021 based on the current rate, although that rate is actually a bit lower than the 2021 pace right now...

    ICE Enforcement and Removal Operations Statistics
     
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  15. WarDamnGator

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    I think most of those Obama numbers were just turnarounds at the border not real deportations of illegals that have been in the U.S.
     
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  18. mdgator05

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    Who knew that expelling people at the border that you likely were complaining was "open" doesn't count?
     
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    LOL, federal agencies are literally referring to California politicians having "their" rioting mobs.

    Our government is every bit the disgrace we knew it would be when we elected a felon.
     
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  20. mikemcd810

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    Same Waymo/Mexican flag clip from two days ago that keeps getting posted. At least it's actually from recent events though so kudos for that.
     
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