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Kennedy Dismisses Entire CDC Vaccine Panel

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by ncargat1, Jun 10, 2025 at 6:01 PM.

  1. ncargat1

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    In an unprecedented move, this opportunist, deceiver, grifter, heroine addict has completely eliminated the independent panel of experts who advise the CDC on vaccines. He is likely to replace them with other career grifter, opportunist liars like Marty Markary, Dr. Oz and Scott Atlas and a broader collection of other know-nothings about infectious disease, vaccinations, immune responses, etc...but who willingly sell snake oil supplements, phony vitamin cures that have never been tested and promote their books talking about how eating carrots will save you from Polio Myelitis. Yet people will pay $$$ for these because Twitter or FoxNews say so. Honestly, I do not care about that so much, grifters are always going to be around.

    However, at the same time, these liars and grifters will openly attack some of the world's greatest scientific achievements in the Polio Vaccine, MMR, DTP, Hepatitis, Influenza and COVID-19 vaccines and move quickly to make these more difficult to obtain, more expensive if you can obtain them and much, much more likely to ensure our next pandemic is far more deadly unnecessarily. Many of these charlatans are supposed to be MD's (though know nothing about viruses, infection disease prevention or vaccines) and have supposedly taken an oath to do no harm. The entire lot them, including this clown in Florida Lapido, who also published made up data, should have their licenses taken away tomorrow.

    Given their gross incompetence for their positions, their purposeful deceit of the American public for their own financial gain and ultimately their destruction of child preventative health care in America, my question is, how many needless deaths will it take to get these charlatans thrown in prison?? One child, two, ten, 1000? So far, 2 children are needlessly dead from one of the most preventable diseases in the measles. Victims of RFK promoted lies and ignorance. When does RFK get charged for murder (murdering something other than his own brain with heroine and worms that is)??

    This will be the REAL legacy of Trump. Sick and dying children from completely preventable diseases and a national health system left 100% incapable of contending with the next pandemic.

     
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  2. homer

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    I think most doctors and people will ignore knucklehead and his minions opinions on vaccines.

    To those that don’t you got what you asked for. I feel bad for their kids.
     
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  3. gator_jo

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    It's beyond obvious that neither Trump, nor any of his unqualified appointees, care about keeping Americans safe or making America better. This has been obvious for ..... ever.

    The only interesting thing is how many Trump supporters see yet another thread like this, specifically documenting the hacks that endanger us ....... and they just scroll right on by.

    I guess they saw someone carrying a Mexican flag in LA or something, which captured their attention. Or a transgender athlete.
     
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  4. l_boy

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    In some cases you can’t really ignore. This panel helped decide what vaccinations to recommend. Assuming they are replaced, they will be replaced with various vaccine skeptics or anti vaxxers. What will be the process of vaccine approval and roll out? Will insurance companies pay for vaccines that the government has not recommended?

    in the case of flu shots meetings to decide the composition this year were deferred, so I wouldn’t be surprised if they are delayed.

    For new Covid shots, they are calling for controlled study trials against unvaccinated subjects - which will cause greater delays and unethical and likely won’t even happen

    For existing covid shots, they are no longer recommended for most. While the numbers of casualties may seem small you could very well have hundreds of deaths that could have been avoided.

    How will a new vaccine even get approved in this environment. Seems like any drug company working on an MNRA vaccine would probably just decide to wait 4 years until Trump leaves, unless they thought international demand would be profitable enough.

    Funding for bird flu vax was cut off.

    Even with existing vaccines they have been very quiet - whereas typically during an outbreak like the measles they would be onsite heavily pushing kids to get vaxxed. Not now.

    There is little question people will die because of RFKjr. It’s just a question of how many and when.
     
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  5. sierragator

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    this what the gop wants
     
  6. gatordavisl

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    Appoint Q, Dugger, rick, & whatever other crackpot antivax folks we got here to the panel. What could go wrong?
     
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  7. vegasfox

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    No excuse for how the CDC and ACIP pushed mRNA shots on kids. Good riddance.
     
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  8. ncargat1

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    Yes, but, if the vaccines are not recommended by the CDC, insurance will not necessarily cover them and how many people can afford a a few $Thousand in vaccines for their children over a period of a few years?
     
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  9. ncargat1

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    No excuse for the idiotic propaganda, flat out lies and other made up non-sense spewed by people like RFK, Makary, Atlas et al..and parroted by the know-nothings on the right. I find it revolting that people like you, and the partents of child child who dies of measles are cheering the childs death because it was a "win" against government overreach.

    Tragic that you are promoting death for children.
     
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  10. vegasfox

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    Nice projection from someone who seems to have been brainwashed
     
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  11. G8tas

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    Not another COVID thread...
     
  12. ncargat1

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    That stings coming from someone who has spewing party propaganda.
     
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    I hate it when people half-ass things.

    Demolish the CDC.
     
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  14. QGator2414

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    LOL!!!

    I would bet you no longer take the great Covid shot. And here you are blaming those who were right with their approach to Covid when it was the idiots in public health that ignored basic medicine and science to push a new shot on an entire population when the majority of the population was not at risk. These idiots at the cdc are the reason MMR acceptance has dropped dramatically. They destroyed so much by ignoring basic science and medicine. Worse…the harmed kids with their recommendations to keep them out of school (and take a shot they did not need).
     
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  15. QGator2414

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    Exactly. I want to believe it was fear driven ignorance. But most of these people were trained in medicine (some of the idiot epidemiologists were not)…

    Truly unbelievable how stupid they were!
     
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    Agree that what you post can happen.

    I’d like to see the ones dismissed stay together under a different name and continue their work if possible.

    If I’m an insurance executive and make the important decisions mine would be that I’d rather pay for a vaccine than a sick person. If I had the choice I’d pick a company that covers vaccinations. I’d ask up front. Where one issue might arise, and it’s a big one, is if my insurance is through my work. I’d have to ride out the ignorance for 4 years.

    Those that don’t believe in vaccinations don’t get them. At least give the ones that do the choice. That’s all I’m asking.

    smdh
     
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    The problem is that a lot of insurance companies rely on the recommendations of CDC vaccine panel in determining what vaccines to cover. It's very possible that the cost of vaccines now covered by insurance will have to be borne by patients although that may change if the panel loses credibility.
     
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  18. ncargat1

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    Oh wait, some people are just now figuring out Kennedy, Makary, Battacharya LIED to the Senate during confirmation hearings or subsequent presentations about their departments? No way. Color me shocked.

     
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  19. QGator2414

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    Considering the entire world does not recommend the covid shot outside the elderly and even then…

    The flu shot for an old person. Eh. If they want.

    The lack of confidence with MMR came from the idiots pushing shots that are unnecessary and with the covid shot actually caused inflammation.

    There is no way insurance needs to be paying for young people to unnecessarily cause inflammation for a disease not dangerous to them.
     
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  20. Gatorrick22

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    Yes, freedom to choose...