Another season, another year where you don’t get to dogpile in Omaha. But guess what, the Gators have!!!!! BWAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHA!!!!!!
I actually thought their pitchers were more consistent than OSU’s. The starter got rocked and then they had the third inning, but throughout the series it seemed to me their guys threw strikes more consistently. And that’s not satire, that’s me TjtheGator analyzing the game and giving my opinion. I think Bill made a good point a couple weeks ago that pitchers these days have fallen under the spell of “analytics” and there isn’t enough focus on mechanics to throw strikes. Everyone wants to find/be the next Paul Skenes but that is a generational pitcher. Too many throwers instead of pitchers these days. Anyways that’s as far as the Holes will get with compliments from me. They can go bugger off to their $hit lives again.
Analytics will tell you what pitch to throw and where. Mechanics allows you to do that and not throw your arm out. All the analytics in the world won't help you if you don't have command of at least two pitches. It isn't like this is all new stuff. Pitches have been tracked against batters since before I was a kid and I'm old. Before games the pitchers were told what to throw to which batters and it what counts. I loved a line in Ball Four when the Pilots were playing the Orioles and they all agreed that they should pitch to Frank Robinson underground. LOL.
Just an appropriate statement of fact for the thread— This season: When FSU was leading after 8 innings/ 31-0 When ORST was behind after 8 innings/ 0-12 If this helps at all…
The LONR hurt him more than the dogpile did. Made him throw what like 160 pitches before pulling him?
tore acl in dog pile in 99 supers win over AU... still pitched in CWs,, couldnt do anymore damage,, and still made all tourn team i think. have to dbl check that one. He pitched a full 4 years (100 ip each) w/out any arm issues I recall. Neverhad MLB stuff, but great college P not sure on his pitch count but sounds about right.. didnt make top 5 though(since 81) MOST PITCHES THROWN (SINCE 1981) 189, Darren Dilks, Oklahoma St. vs. Arizona St., 6-5-81 (11-10) 175, Erik Sonberg, Wichita St. vs. Oklahoma St., 6-9-82 (13-2) 172, Brooks Kieschnick, Texas vs. Oklahoma St., 6-5-93 (6-5) 169, Tim Davis, Florida St. vs. California, 5-31-92 (5-4) 167, Jason Young, Stanford vs. Florida St., 6-18-99 (14-11) I notice the dates on al of those were post season time.. If you had a horse you rode him.
What were the dates? I remember the era of riding the horse well. We have learned a lot since then. I think that is an area where analytics are helpful. Still gotta work on mechanics. Gotta throw strikes!
I imagine an unstable knee from an ACL tear will cause issues upstream with regards to mechanics. Hips and lower back are absorbing a lot more force and doing so awkwardly. The LONR literally burned Varnes. He simply did not do right by his guy.
The dates of the top 5 ever thrown,, they were all in post season. may/june And yeah, certainly a different era now.. teams didnt have near the pitching depth back then either, at least compared to their top guys. And now you have specialty guys in pen etc, though thats more of an MLB thing I guess. But it was norm in MLB to throw 150 pitches for a while too. Almost expected from aces.
I wont argue CMM rode arms.. other than saying it seemed a lot of the HCs in 80 90s that always showed up in Omaha were also guilty. But not sure how it affected Varnes. 1999 Fr 11-2 4.13 109 IP 2000 So 11-4 3.88 116 IP 2001 Jr. 9-1 3. 61 114 IP 2002 Sr 10-3 3.98 106 IP Prety much same thing every year.
Varnes did not make CWS All tourn team in 99 btw.. It was Chris Chavez. Varnes took the loss in champ game 6IP 6 runs. He also didnt pitch in Supers in 99 v AU,, they swept, he was gm 3 guy I guess. pitched v Citadel in regional, then champ gm of CWS . last 2 apperances of year. gave up 6 in both lol
Exactly—and I wouldn’t say this if it wasn’t the truth. It’s the only time I’ve ever seen Miami do anything right. The entire time Varnes was in the game I expected them to wear the third base line out bunting against him but not one single time did they put that kind of pressure on his knee. That’s as close to a compliment as I can get.
Yeah, I remember FSU opened a season out in the state of Texas one year and “11” threw Richie Lewis a stupid number of pitches for any game, especially opening day. Seems like it was well over 150 pitches, don’t remember the exact number.
