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April inflation comes in lower than expected — now at 2.3%, the LOWEST since COVID.

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by ETGator, May 13, 2025 at 3:05 PM.

  1. ETGator

    ETGator Long-Time Gator Stuck In East Tennessee Moderator VIP Member

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    Several were screeching the economic world was ending a few weeks ago with a poor ADP Report. Now with this great news about inflation and gas prices dropping and egg prices some fixate on dropping and the near RECORD Treasury surplus . . . from the same group we hear:

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  2. exiledgator

    exiledgator Gruntled

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    Great news on its face. Markets love it.

    Wonder why bond yields rose though....
     
  3. exiledgator

    exiledgator Gruntled

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    A treasury surplus? In April?
     
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  4. vaxcardinal

    vaxcardinal GC Hall of Fame

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    perhaps people paying their taxes?
     
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  5. mdgator05

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    Yep, happens every year. Budget deficit for FY 2025 still running much higher than budget deficit for FY 2024, despite the increase in taxes on consumers.
     
  6. mdgator05

    mdgator05 Premium Member

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    Hmmm..good work, I guess. I can see how explicity going after people was a much softer tone than a factual thread title.
     
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  7. exiledgator

    exiledgator Gruntled

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    Uh. Yeah. That was the post..
     
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  9. BLING

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    I don’t believe this inflation # would include tariffs, as technically the high tariffs never went into effect - or at least not a whole lot of products on shelves are subjected to tariffs. That’s why shipping numbers were so strong in previous months (also known as “channel stuffing”). Those “last boats” were inventories coming to get ahead of tariffs.

    Port activity in May was being compared to COVID, that’s what it was going to look like w/145% tariffs. This administration basically had no choice but to get more realistic. I’d slow my roll on spiking the football, as the 30% (10% reciprocal + 20% “Fentanyl tariff”) are still going to be inflationary and disruptive going forward. The 145% was a total cessation of trade, 30% is still going to hurt a lot of businesses. Might not cause inflation *if* we get deals with other Asian countries at much lower than 30%. But that’s just because big companies are already set to go in Vietnam or Cambodia. Small business may have a harder time if they were working with a Chinese factory.
     
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  10. ETGator

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    My guess: as more deals are announced and inflation levels/falls, there is less likelihood Powell and his FED will cut rates.
     
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  11. rivergator

    rivergator Too Hot Mod Moderator VIP Member

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    Good news. Hope the drop continues
     
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  12. exiledgator

    exiledgator Gruntled

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    Huh?
     
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  13. BLING

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    If inflation falls over a sustained period wouldn’t that make it more likely to cut rates??? Or at least give them the flexibility to cut if necessary.

    The worry the fed has/had, was tariffs triggering severe stagflation. Where the economy spiraled, but high govt trade barriers simultaneously triggered high inflation. Obviously increased risk and uncertainty forces rates higher as well, some of the crazy-talk (like when GOP pols just casually threaten default) calls into question the idea of U.S. treasuries as a “risk free” asset.
     
  14. AzCatFan

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    With Trump backing down from the 145% tariffs, it's unlikely we'll get the mass stagflation. But I wouldn't spike the football in triumph just yet with the current inflation report. One, full tariff effects won't hit until June or July. And two, some of the biggest price drops were in the travel and hospitality fields, who are dropping prices because demand has bottomed out due to a giant decrease in international travel to the US.

    A good look at what tariffs will do is with new car prices. They were flat in March, with a small jump in April. That's because we're dealing with previous inventory that was finished and delivered before the tariffs hit. But as this article states, prices are expected to rise between 5% and 25% depending on where the parts for each car is manufactured.
     
  15. wgbgator

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    I say go ahead and spike the football, like Leon Lett
     
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  16. SotaGator

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    So why am I paying more now than a year ago for nearly everything ???

    Exclude eggs and gas from the conversation, prices are HIGH
     
  17. g8orbill

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    Go Trump Go
     
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  18. okeechobee

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    Because you failed Econ 101.
     
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    The noticeable drops in inflation and illegal immigration are very telling. I guess that's why he swept 7 of 7 contested states. I'm still in awe.
     
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  20. GatorTheo

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    It's still early but it's looking like America made the right choice.
     
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