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Stunning Blatant Corruption

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by mikemcd810, May 11, 2025 at 10:30 AM.

  1. channingcrowderhungry

    channingcrowderhungry Premium Member

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    I've told the story on here before of the head of my department getting jail time for knowing selling to a blacklisted country. I could 100% be misremembering, but I believe he was selling to Qatar knowing they were re-selling to Oman. We shouldn't be accepting gifts from any country like this, let alone slimey Middle East countries.
     
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  2. g8orbill

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    part if the reason for the delays in Boeing delivering the new AF1 - is all the change orders under joey and based upon all the delays since this started I doubt the 2 year number - how out of sorts you libs get over this makes me laugh - you act as if they are giving the plane to Trump himself when it is going to the DOD- as for the rest- the going to his Presidential Library- we will just have to wait and see
     
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  3. mdgator05

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    You act like they are personally giving him this plane when they will personally give it to him for whatever use he wants (but make sure that the federal government pays for its costs) in 4 years.
     
  4. mikemcd810

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    Any source for Biden change orders resulting in delays? Only thing I can find is Biden scrapping Trump's new paint design because it would add costs and delays.

    Also, how does it make any sense to start over with a new aircraft that will have to be modified - how would that be any faster than just finishing the job with the current planes? The truth is that Air Force One is old, but still safe, and Trump just wants to fly around in a fancy luxury plan which he plans to keep for the rest of his life after he leaves office.
     
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  6. mikemcd810

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    https://apnews.com/article/biden-air-force-one-boeing-8810bbdb8f0d31a7cced6f84c8b60f5f

    I know blaming Biden is the default "go-to" but maybe modifying a plane to serve as Air Force One is just complicated at not anyone's specific fault.
     
  7. gator_jo

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    I'm going to make a wild guess that you have never learned anything about this, and didn't even read your own article.


    But if you did, you'd realize that Biden cares about America more than Trump.


    A review from the Air Force determined Trump’s design would raise costs and take more time for the updated aircraft that were already behind schedule.

    Trump discarded a robin’s egg blue and white design from the Kennedy administration at the time he made his decision.
     
  8. citygator

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  9. sierragator

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  10. JG8tor

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    This. Doesn't he have more important things to do, like caving on the debt ceiling and rubber stamping the spending increases?
     
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  11. vaxcardinal

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    how far away are we from getting delivery of the new AF1? I would think 'retrofitting' the gifted plane would be a minimum of 1 year and would impact completion of the currently contracts AF1 aircrafts.
     
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  12. vaxcardinal

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    my posts must be like crack to you since you have neither blocked me nor scrolled past them.
     
  13. 108

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    not mentioned is the fact that tax payers would be fitting the bill for the retrofit, that would then be given to Trump for his personal use after his presidency..
     
  14. mikemcd810

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    If it was only a matter of upgrading an existing plane we could have done that through Boeing already without the need to accept a plane from another country.
     
  15. BLING

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    Latest update appears to be 2027, delayed from 2024. It’s definitely a boondoggle for Boeing at this point. But I don’t think taking a civilian plane is the answer.

    AF1 has all kinds of military tech on it. Obviously predictable stuff like anti-air defenses (flares), but communication tech and shielding against EMP/nukes. I’m sure there’s some crazy/top secret stuff we don’t know about.

    I guess they could say “nevermind, we don’t need any of that fancy military defense stuff afterall” but I doubt any serious people think that.
     
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  16. VAg8r1

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    The other issues aside, are you suggesting that like the 707 used by Reagan, the plane will be decommissioned, rendered unable to fly, and placed on permanent static display after it is acquired by the Trump library? There is also a reason why the jets designated as the new presidential transport aircraft (technically Air Force One is the call sign of a plane carrying the president rather than the name of the plane) are still being retrofitted at a Boeing facility. They require extensive modification to meet the requirements of an AF1. The same would apply to the 747 gifted to Trump by Qatar. It's not beyond the realm of possibility that the planes already being modified by Boeing will be available before the one gifted to him by Qatar.
     
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  17. demosthenes

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    From what I’ve seen they think it will push from Dec 2024, to fall of 2026, and now into 2027. The problem is all those complications pushing out schedule are the same things that would be required to upgrade this Qatari plane. So spending hundreds of millions and taking, very optimistically, a year doesn’t make sense when we have two secure and fully functional AF1s.
     
  18. rivergator

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    no matter how stuck on “it’s just the libs … it’s just the libs …” some people are, it’s obvious that some republicans have a problem with this
     
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  19. citygator

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    And now you know the rest of the story...

    Trump Says He Will Lift Sanctions on Syria at Saudi Investment Forum: Live Updates

    The president announced the planned change in U.S. policy during a speech at a Saudi investment forum at the start of the first major international trip of his second term. His meeting with Syria’s new leader will take place Wednesday.

    President Trump announced on Tuesday that he would end sanctions on Syria, saying at the start of his four-day tour of the Middle East that he had decided to do so after consulting with Saudi Arabia’s crown prince and the President of Turkey.

    Mr. Trump’s announcement drew rousing applause from the crowd at an investment forum in Riyadh, where he spoke before some of the world’s business elite and members of the Saudi royal family. “There is a new government that will hopefully succeed in stabilizing the country and keeping peace,” he said, referring to the rebel alliance that ousted the dictator Bashar al-Assad in December. “That’s what we want to see in Syria.”
     
  20. mikemcd810

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    What are the odds that his staff and the Treasury Department were blindsided and learned about this for the first time when he said it? 90%? 95%?