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Surprise! Sacovie White arrested for reason (and the Rashadas file a lawsuit)

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by Ahab, May 21, 2024.

  1. Claygator

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    All parties signed?
     
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  2. hhpgator

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    It was my understanding that either party could terminate for any reason with notification.
     
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  3. eastowest

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    You can click the on3/ news read in the middle of the text and there is a 15 minute video discussion.
     
  4. paidinfull

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    Not on that copy. Here’s the whole thing…. If this has been available the whole time, not sure why they’ve been sitting on it.

    https://on3static.com/uploads/dev/assets/cms/2024/05/21111050/Rashada-Contract-2022.pdf

    I know Rojas is gone, but I hope anyone who thought giving this kid that kind of money is no longer involved in any future negotiations. We may need Hathcock’s money, but if he thought this was a good idea, he shouldn’t be involved in negotiations.

    I just breezed through it, but the wording is kind of how I thought these things would be worded. Must live and participate in engagements in Gainesville, FL. Must participate in an athletic program at A postsecondary educational institution.
     
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  5. 4RoswellGators

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    Agree.
    This deal looks like it was an act of desperation. I now understand why so many people say Gator Victorious has us in a better place.

    There is no way college football will stay here for long. These players are no longer amateur athletes and this lawsuit has highlighted the issues of NIL in its current state. And...since there is no governing body or rules, there are no limits what you can pay a kid to play at your school.

    This lawsuit is proof that buying players is happening and it's legal. Biggest budget wins.

    But wtf ... $13.8m??
     
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  6. ajoseph

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    A few things … at least according to this copy, the contract is not signed by the collective. There’s an arbitration provision that can arguably enforced against Rashada, even though the Collective is not named a party, and thus nobody should be surprised if someone seeks to compel arbitration. The contract is not the hallmark of great drafting, IMO.
     
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  7. northgagator

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    I am more than familiar with the layout of Athens, GA. The location of this escapade is just two or three blocks from the campus and the heart of Athens.

    You would think that they would be more discrete in where they would act so insane.
     
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  8. paidinfull

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    There won’t ever be any limits on this money, even if the players become employees and salaries are established. Contracts may help limit movement, but it’s unlikely the third party money ever goes away completely.
     
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  9. SeabudGator

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    A few thoughts. People with millions to give away generally do not execute contracts and then walk without some defense, or they would not have millions. Second, this contract is only signed by Rashada and, as has been pointed out, is unlikely to be enforceable if only an oral contract is claimed. Third, the termination clause in section 5 says the Collective can terminate if “in its sole discretion performance of the contract violates or is in any way effected by law or school policy.” It is very broad and hard to imagine that “in their sole discretion” the Collective couldn’t come up with some law or policy affected by performance under the contract. Pretty much a terminate with notice at will clause.

    The House lawsuit seeking back pay for athletes does not bother me. This suit reeks of a money grab by a greedy kid, perhaps spurred on by a jerk UGA coach. This looks to be a total BS suit. Which leads to my final point, I hope BN succeeds but if he can’t start beating UGA soon, we need to get someone who can. Despise Kirby…..
     
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  10. northgagator

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    Item 1, the Florida Legislation on Feb. 16, 2023, amended its original NIL.
    Prior before that it was well noted that Billy Napier and his staff was not participating in NIL discussion with recruits. The original Florida NIL law was a quicksand trap for the state collages in Florida. The recruiting of Rashada was in Dec 2022.

    Thus, I do not see Napier or anyone at UF being part of NIL money or any other type of money being offered to Rashada.

    Item 2, It has been well discussed in the thread about a lack of signatures on the contract that was attached to the news releases. There has to be more here for this suit to progress this far.

    Item 3, It causes me a lot of concern that Napier could get into this situation in Dec. 2022. I do not even want to venture any further on item.

    If this contract is all the evidence that Rashada's attorney has, then this entire event is a farce.

    On the other hand, I do not even want to think if there is more evidence.

    I do find it odd, that the Rashada camp is going forward with this suite. It could be that his adventures in the state of Florida cost him and his family some money. But, he must of received a decent NIL at Arizona and at UGA. There is something bigger here. Most likely Napier is innocent (collateral damage) and the old Gator Collective is the main target. If that is the case, UF should be in the clear.
     
  11. eastowest

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  12. cyberdyne

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    Yeah! Just like Cam!!
     
  13. iam4uf

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    This is my thought as well. First Kirby lures away UF's starting RB for a backup position. Then Kirby signs the 2nd string Arizona QB (i.e. probable non-starter) who once committed to UF & this kid immediately sues UF. Something stinks about all of this.
     
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  14. Claygator

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    Two things:

    1. You are correct that there is no evidence the collective signed, but perhaps they did. Can't tell from that copy.

    2. The arbitration clause WILL be enforced if everyone signed the contract, unless everyone who signed the contract waives arbitration. The defendants would never waive arbitration-if they signed the contract. The complicating part is that Napier and other individuals were sued, and they would never have been signatories to the contract.

    So..Rashada's lawyer filed a lawsuit, knowing arbitration would most likely be compelled, solely to get publicity.
     
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  15. Wanne15

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    And what do you think the top qbs are getting.
     
  16. 4RoswellGators

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    ~$1m per year ... but someone like Manning $3m.
    Rashada is no Manning and would have received about 1.3m/year from Miami. We almost tripled it even though there were no other suitors coming close to that figure.

    Maybe we were desperate b/c of Nick Evers the year before and needed a recruiting "win"?

    No matter the reason, we were willing to over-pay this kid by about 300%. That sounds like a bad business decision to me.
     
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  17. Wanne15

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    Makes no sense to beat Miami’s bid by that much. Sure, we weren’t desperate but Miami was probably overpriced too.
    I doubt we touch Lagway for 1 mil.
     
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  18. ETGator

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    I am not fussing at you but want everyone to please keep in mind there is a huge difference between how NIL was being handled/mis-handled back then by a now non-existent LLC [remember, we weren't even supposed to discuss it here] and how it is smoothly being coordinated now that a new LLC is in charge. The old "we" part wasn't really a "we" at all . . . but some (not meaning @4RoswellGators) want folks to believe that.
     
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  19. filamg8torfan

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    I'm no lawyer, so I don't know. Can CBN and the collectives counter sue if Rash and bowlcut used false documents?
     
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  20. ThePlayer

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    • A binding, legally enforceable contract can be in writing or oral. Oral contracts are agreements that have been spoken, but not written. Depending on the nature of the transaction, certain types of contracts in Florida are required by law to be in writing in order to be enforceable.
    • Gators Online reached out to an attorney with more than 40 years of experience practicing law in the state of Florida. After reviewing the complaint the attorney offered these opinions based on what was filed.
      • Rashada is alleging fraud … so they must prove knowledge that the three defendants (Billy Napier, Hugh Hathcock, and Marcus Castro-Walker) knew and conspired with each other to defraud Rashada of what was promised.
      • They can prove knowledge through their own testimony, which is likely to get through an initial hearing, meaning a judge is unlikely to throw the case out before going to trial, but that would then be up to a jury to determine who is telling the truth if it got to the point of a trial.
      • Because nobody knows what a jury will do, these cases are typically settled out of court.
     
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