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HOW IS THE OL DEVELOPING?

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by doctorg8r, Jan 23, 2024.

  1. malscott

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    We have this new TE who can block and catch. I think we have a ton of linebackers now. A couple few that will return to full health in the summer. We have Lagway and unless they underutilize the kid, that could be a nice wrinkle. Mertz is comfortable in this offense. We have more bodies to rotate in...

    And, finally, we have a gaggle of new coaches. There's a little fire in their collective bellies compared to before. There's better conditioning. A five win season would be baffling and hugely disappointing to me, regardless of who we're playing.

    Time to 'nut up' and take these teams down.:eek:

    Go Gators.;)
     
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  2. northgagator

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    I agree totally with you. However, you cannot get that execution when you have to many moving parts going in and out of the program.
     
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  3. doctorg8r

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    Because of the TP, that's happening in every program. Last year, to your point, we lost a number of OL to the portal, and that definitely affected execution. Hopefully, with the transfer additions in 2024, that will change.
     
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  4. DieAGator

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    So transfers out have a negative effect, transfers in correct that? Just messing around Doc. But really, execution is not an excuse. Sucks when players make mistakes, true. Lose a few games by a point only because a receiver dropped a ball, DB missed an INT he should have had, a RB fumbles, or shank the winning FG, okay. Lose several games by 3 TDs and hear "it's about execution" in the post game is not going to cut it.

    I don't know phil. If we are improved over last year- staff and team- we will win at least 7. Winning only 5 or 6 this year and expecting to turn the corner the following season because we have an easier schedule seems to be setting the bar too low.
     
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  5. doctorg8r

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    I read an article about Crenshaw-Dickson, and apparently he allowed only one sack in 932 snaps (see article below). I am no expert on offensive lineman efficiency, but it sounds extremely exceptional to me! We were God awful last year with 39 sacks for the year. That's averaging over three sacks per game! And worse than that, Graham Mertz was running for his life, with not much time to throw! So, hell yes, I am optimistic about 2024 for the Gator football team! I am expecting much improvement from the OL. With better OL, we should have a better run and passing game. Mertz described Crenshaw-Dickson as "fantastic" in his reads of the defense, and also characterized him as locked-in as a tackle. Mertz is optimistic, so why shouldn't Gator fans be hopeful for the season? Go Gators!
    https://247sports.com/college/flori...e-lineman-brandon-crenshaw-dickson-231541498/
     
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    Great to read this. Thanks Doc
     
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  7. doctorg8r

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    So, I would rate the OL in 2023 as below average. To me, a 5 would be a C grade. I'm thinking a two or 3 at best! 39 sacks and all the pressure on Mertz. A five is very generous! If the OL is only two notches better--which I do not believe--then, that would indicate Vegas is spot on with their projection of seven losses! My money is on the Gators this year!
    Incidentally, I saw this question and answer on Gatorcountry (see link below) and thought I'd share it.
    "Overall, on a scale of 1 to 10 how would you rate last years Oline and this years and projected next years?"

    AS: "Last year I would say the offensive line was a 5 simply because the right side of the line was in bad shape. I think this year’s line is better if Austin Barber is healthy and I also believe Brandon Crenshaw-Dickson is better at left tackle. I would say this year’s offensive line should be a 7 or 8 depending on the health and how the young guys improve. Guys like Bryce Lovett, Knijeah Harris and Roderick Kearney are all young guys who should take a step forward this year."
    Florida Gators recruiting mailbag: May 8th edition | GatorCountry.com
     
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  8. doctorg8r

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    We have the same schedule the next year. We are going to have to improve tremendously to win 7-8 from last year. Oline execution comes from playing together and that’s what scares me most about this year. You can’t throw an allstar line on the field and just have great coaches give them a couple months of practice. It just doesn’t work like that.
     
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  10. doctorg8r

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    I reread your post and decided to respond. I don't believe in excuses, but execution is not only a valid reason, it has been the Gators modus operandi the last two seasons! Sure, BN has made his share of mistakes, but player execution has been the biggest culprit. In year one, the OL wasn't great, but AR was the biggest issue. He could hit the long passes and totally botch the shorter ones. Consistency was another issue in both years, and I just referenced lack of consistency with AR in year one. The defense played consistently bad in year one and two; or, it could be said differently--they played consistently subpar. In year two, the OL, as a whole, played inconsistently. Due to how badly the OL performed, we were fortunate to win as many games as we did; and we were fortunate to be in a few games. We played Arkansas OK, but did not play all four quarters well. And inconsistent play was evident in every game; although Missouri--far and away--was our best performance by the offense. The lack of execution by the defense was the reason for the loss to Arkansas and Missouri. Who can forget the defense giving up fourth and 17 to Missouri. Maybe that could be called sheer luck by Missouri or simply piss-poor defense! In year one and two, successful execution occurred some, but execution was inconsistent enough to prevent winning against really good teams. Not sure why you struggle with execution, when it was so blatantly obvious!!!
     
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  11. doctorg8r

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  13. doctorg8r

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    Yes, I expect MUCH BETTER EXECUTION, and few injuries would also contribute to a much better season. Sounds like Fletcher Westphal, Caden Jones, and Roderick Kearney are expected to contribute well. Austin Barber and Kam Waites are expected to go this fall. For the first time under Napier, we are three deep at tackle!
     
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  14. Crusher

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    Three months from now will tell the tale. Is he at a good playing weight or not?
     
  16. Crusher

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    Yup, but IMO he played way overweight last year. He was huge, but it looked mostly like fat. I hope he has changed his body like Napier said and converted a lot of that baby-fat to muscle.
     
  17. doctorg8r

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    No one in journalism or in any podcasts that I follow have raised any issues about this, so I am not concerned about it until it becomes a concern!
     
  18. Crusher

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    How 'bout dudes with 2 eyes that saw him struggle to move effectively in pass blocking situations and noticed that he appeared a bit too sloppy fat?
     
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  19. Matthanuf06

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    Immediate gratification is expecting success in year 1

    Expecting respectability in year 3 is called patience
     
  20. doctorg8r

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    Congratulations, you love to argue. At least I am happier for accentuating the positive!!!
     
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