Welcome home, fellow Gator.

The Gator Nation's oldest and most active insider community
Join today!

Tennessee NIL Infractions?

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by doctorg8r, Jan 30, 2024.

  1. Wanne15

    Wanne15 GC Hall of Fame

    12,983
    3,422
    3,088
    Jan 18, 2015
    The nfl has owners that have equal rights in the league. All these fake division one teams collecting checks don’t care one bit about the corruption. The only way they will ever be held accountable is when there are only 40 or so teams and they all want to be held accountable. The teams running the show like cheating as an advantage to stay on top.
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
  2. TrueGator

    TrueGator GC Hall of Fame

    1,597
    752
    2,063
    Nov 11, 2014
    Beginning to wonder why there is even an NCAA organization anymore. Teams and conferences seem to be all that are needed in this free-for-all-except-Florida-teams NIL environment.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  3. LimeyGator

    LimeyGator Official Brexit Reporter!

    Speaking of this sphere, I don't suppose anyone here is connected to UF Athletic Compliance Programme by any chance!?

    If you are, can you drop me a DM?
     
    Last edited: Feb 29, 2024
  4. Crusher

    Crusher GC Hall of Fame

    4,997
    1,061
    2,143
    Apr 19, 2007
    I have to disagree with you a little there and I am as true orange and blue as they come. I'm an alum and I worked for UF for 13 years. The University is doing a great job at what its goals are which is mainly becoming one of the premiere research Universities in the world. This does provide better opportunities for graduate students and post-docs, but the cost has been to undergraduate education. While it still attracts the cream of the crop in students, I personally (yes a subjective belief, I know) believe that the University isn't fulfilling its original mission of educating Florida students to create a well-trained workforce as it did back in the '80's when I was a student. Many of the top professors both in compensation and reputation don't teach a single undergraduate class.

    My test for whether a school or college has sold out to revenue generation is simple: Can they walk away from it tomorrow and be fine? Even though UF is one of the handful of Athletic Departments that operate in the black, the answer is no, they can't. They have way too much debt for athletic facilities that couldn't be serviced of they chose to not to go to the Pro athlete model. Sadly, no one could have really predicted the sudden overturning of the apple-cart of how college athletics is run, and I'm sure no one at UF could have predicted it, but now they are totally locked into that model, whether they like it or not. The only path I can see to spinning intercollegiate athletics off from the University is to lease back the naming rights and Facilities to whatever Pro entity takes over.
     
    • Informative Informative x 2
  5. Wanne15

    Wanne15 GC Hall of Fame

    12,983
    3,422
    3,088
    Jan 18, 2015
    Schools could still own their pro teams just as they do now. I’m not sure how they will decide to go but boosters are paying and schools are taking in cash. I’m not sure they are motivated to change a thing. Money makes those decisions and financially, maybe this model looks pretty good. For fans, it sucks. As long as we keep support this, I’m not sure why it would change.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  6. Crusher

    Crusher GC Hall of Fame

    4,997
    1,061
    2,143
    Apr 19, 2007
    I don’t think they will have much choice due to their debt issues. But theres a lot of worms in the apple they will have to deal with. Things like UBI taxes, workmans comp insurance, etc. I guess if the money covers the bills and the headaches, they will continue on.
     
  7. Wanne15

    Wanne15 GC Hall of Fame

    12,983
    3,422
    3,088
    Jan 18, 2015
    Texas cleared 271 mil last year so there are a certain number of schools with the business model to continue. Teams that aren’t really in tgat conversation will need to realign with each other and play a division down instead of pretending to play in the highest classification. There are not 128 division one teams.
     
  8. WC53

    WC53 GC Hall of Fame

    4,014
    866
    2,088
    Oct 17, 2015
    Old City
    • Informative Informative x 2
  9. doctorg8r

    doctorg8r GC Hall of Fame

    1,168
    901
    1,788
    Dec 11, 2018
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • Winner Winner x 1
  10. Claygator

    Claygator GC Hall of Fame

    3,900
    633
    2,568
    Apr 11, 2007
    But who manages all of the non-revenue sports? College athletics is about so much more than just football. What is the model for managing these sports, and ensuring fair play?

    No one has one.
     
  11. Crusher

    Crusher GC Hall of Fame

    4,997
    1,061
    2,143
    Apr 19, 2007
    I haven't seen this posted yet, but the States of Florida and New York have joined Virginia and Tennessee the suit against the NCAA over NIL investigations:

    MSN
     
  12. Claygator

    Claygator GC Hall of Fame

    3,900
    633
    2,568
    Apr 11, 2007
    A "preliminary" injunction is just that. Preliminary.

    Courts do that to maintain the "status quo" until they have the time to consider all of the evidence and make a full decision on the merits. In this case, the court paused enforcement actions, until it had time to consider the case in full. It doesn't mean the NCAA has lost.

    You can't rely on the media to accurately report what court proceedings mean--or anything else for that matter.
     
    • Agree Agree x 3
  13. paidinfull

    paidinfull GC Hall of Fame

    4,472
    1,142
    2,038
    Feb 22, 2017
    The tro expired a while ago, I’m pretty sure. In the meantime, the ncaa has said they aren’t going to enforce any sitout rules. They initially threatened to enforce the rules retroactively if they later won the case and some athletes broke the rules while the case was ongoing. They’ve since walked this stance back and just made it open season. I don’t see them putting this cat back in the bag, win or lose at this point. They haven’t managed to put any of the other cats back in their bags, so I don’t expect this one to be any different.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • Informative Informative x 1
  14. TrueGator

    TrueGator GC Hall of Fame

    1,597
    752
    2,063
    Nov 11, 2014
    Sad, but, true.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  15. TrueGator

    TrueGator GC Hall of Fame

    1,597
    752
    2,063
    Nov 11, 2014
    Just like in the '80s. We opened the kimono, and its history what they did to us.
     
  16. jailer

    jailer GC Hall of Fame

    2,308
    823
    1,978
    Apr 3, 2007
    Palm Beach
    Small change got rained on by his own 38…
     
  17. Gatorrick22

    Gatorrick22 GC Hall of Fame

    83,790
    24,964
    4,613
    Apr 3, 2007
    They never once cared about cheating BEFORE the NIL was legal. So they're a bit late to the party... feckless organization.
     
  18. doctorg8r

    doctorg8r GC Hall of Fame

    1,168
    901
    1,788
    Dec 11, 2018
    O
    Of course, it depended on who was cheating!
     
    • Winner Winner x 3
  19. Crusher

    Crusher GC Hall of Fame

    4,997
    1,061
    2,143
    Apr 19, 2007
    I'm not so sure that UF or at least the FL AG is going to roll over this time considering they've joined Tenn and Virginia in the suit against the NCAA over the matter. UF's statement is likely just "PR talk."
     
    • Informative Informative x 1
  20. Crusher

    Crusher GC Hall of Fame

    4,997
    1,061
    2,143
    Apr 19, 2007
    They did for a minute, between 1980 and 2000 or so where they actually tamped it down to background noise (Because of human nature it could never be completely eliminated). It is one of the reasons I believe it was an opportune time for a Steve Spurrier to show up at UF. Just check what happened to Bama, one of the biggest cheaters in NCAA history, in that decade. It was still a nothing burger compared to the punishment UF rec'd for much less egregious violations, but it at least leveled the playing field a bit.
     
    • Agree Agree x 3