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Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by ATLGATORFAN, Apr 25, 2024.

  1. gator_lawyer

    gator_lawyer VIP Member

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    Cuba isn't launching rockets at us because we aren't occupying Cuba. (Outside of Guantanamo Bay, which is under lease.) If we were occupying Cuba, I expect they would launch rockets at us.
     
  2. l_boy

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    For clarification when you say “occupying” are you referring to the existence of Israel?
     
  3. gator_lawyer

    gator_lawyer VIP Member

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    No.
    https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/06/14/gaza-israels-open-air-prison-15
    Because of the continuing controls Israel exercises over the lives and welfare of Gaza’s inhabitants, Israel remains an occupying power under international humanitarian law, despite withdrawing its military forces and settlements from the territory in 2005.
     
  4. l_boy

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    What is interesting is it isn’t just Israel. It’s also Egypt.

    To a degree they made their bed when the elected Hamas as their government nearly 20 years ago.

    As I understand it there was some back and forth and some Gazans were allowed to cross into Israel for work. Some of those that crossed gathered intel for the Oct 7th attacks.
     
  5. Trickster

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    That would be impossible to comprehend were history not replete with such depravity.
     
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  6. ATLGATORFAN

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    An important note that cannot be ignored is this absolutely was part of Hamas strategy….to retreat and purposely hide within the unarmed civilians. Urban warfare is not new. The data has been out and available for years including sources such as UN ( included again below) that states civilians deaths in Urban warfare historically have been between 75 and 90% of all deaths. Again this data is not new. Every military strategist already knows these numbers including Iran, Hamas, hezbelloh the US and Israel. Knowing civilians die in large numbers during urban conflicts, who is really responsible for the death of the civilians? To me the blame Resides with the ones who purposely included those unarmed civilians in their tactical plans

    One side ambushed/attacked unarmed civilians and killed, raped and tortured as many as they could, then when met with resistance turned around and retreated to fortified positions and weopons cache purposely placed within unarmed civilian population areas such as hospitals schools etc. Sorry, but I categorically reject any notion that anyone that takes that strategy can then turn and claim they care about civilians casualties. the worlds ire needs to be properly directed at those responsible, but I’m not holding my breath

    Ninety Per Cent of War-Time Casualties Are Civilians, Speakers Stress, Pressing Security Council to Fulfil Responsibility, Protect Innocent People in Conflicts | Meetings Coverage and Press Releases
     
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  7. ATLGATORFAN

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    Your objection to the messenger is noted. That doesn’t minimize or dilute the message. As far as “whose place did he take?”. That guy in the video is a total loon. He/she/they clearly took someone’s spot, whether that other person is African American, Latino, Asian, or Caucasian. That being said, I honestly don’t care about that. It’s a private school and they can do whatever they want as far as admission.
     
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  8. G8tas

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    Nope not buying it. That doesn't explain the shooting of of civilians with drones who are just walking down the road, the running over civilians with bulldozers or the videos of children being shot. Those have nothing to do with Hamas hiding.
     
  9. ATLGATORFAN

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    Well I can’t speak to the veracity of the videos you mentioned. Numbers are what they are and almost always regress to the mean. It overwhelmingly serves Hamas for civilians to be killed and as I mentioned historically 80-90% of all deaths in urban fighting are civilian so it’s not surprising to see large numbers of civilians being killed. I’m sure the IDF would welcome the fight being out in the open.
     
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  10. gatordavisl

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    No, it's not.
     
  11. mdgator05

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    As I stated, while Ben-Gurion and the Labor folks accepted the partition, they were pretty open about it being a tactical acceptance. The plan was never to sit in the borders. They just thought that accepting it advanced their goals (which involved substantially more land) than not accepting it. It is similar to the Irish Nationalist split Post-World War I (it should be noted that Irish nationalists were advising early Zionists on both sides of the split over the partition). One side accepted tactical incrementalism to the end goal and the other wanted the end goal and not the intermediate steps.
     
  12. Orange_and_Bluke

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