IMO we've reached a point where to remain a Republican, in ANY capacity, is to be complicit. (tbh, we reached this point during the impeachment votes, if not earlier. But we're there now. )
I've been a Republican longer than most of these Trump squatters have been. I'll remain and vote them out from within.
I see your point and can respect that. But when we see that apparently all Republican politicians have to be silent (complicit) about a literal national disinformation campaign, I wonder who that leaves you able to vote for? Candidates and officials who say little or nothing about this commitment to mistruth, yet are still.....upstanding officials? Democrats?
yep. Go against Trump and you put yourself in danger. “After voting to impeach Trump, Meijer himself faced so many threats that felt the need to purchase body armor.” “Trump’s most fanatical followers have created a situation where challenging him carries not only political risks but also personal ones. Elected officials who dare defy the former president face serious threats to their well-being and to that of their families — raising the cost of taking an already difficult stand.” How death threats get Republicans to fall in line behind Trump
Im not wanting to label this a cult, but I think your post identifies something profound about our political minds, which is that we often shift the currency of value away from right and wrong to winning and losing. We often bypass thinking about the inherent morality of an action to focus on how it affects the chances of our party in the next election, which seems a dangerous tendency.
Trumpers don't care about the GOP. They care about the the cult leader and they hate those he has deemed as their enemies. You can see how they didn't turn up in the special senatorial elections in Georgia in 2020 as proof.
Nice example of motivated reasoning. Dems thought Trump was Hitler and that's all the illegal votfes they could come up with to deny the Nazi a second term, even with drop boxes? Every political nettpr I know would take the over on 10X your number and then some
Where's the evidence? Show me. Be like the Pillow idiot and pay offer $5 million if they can show the election was free and fair! Oops, maybe not. How did that work out for the pillow idiot again? You say there were over 10k fraud votes. Yet, initial counts say different. Recounts say different. Audits say different, and the expert Trump hired says different. So, are these people all incompetent and somehow missed tens of thousands of fraudulent votes? Have the Ds figured out a way to fool all these experts, and keep people silent on how they did it? Or, have the elections been free and fair all along?
You're trying too hard. Just encourage election deniers to not vote in 2024 because it's already rigged.
Good idea. But for those still interested in facts, even if there were 15,000 fraud votes in 2020, that would be enough to overturn a grand total of 1 state, and 1 state only. Biden would still be the winner. And overturning that 1 state would require some outlandish assumptions on the part of the fraud votes. 1) All fraud votes would have to come from a single state, and not spread over all 50 states 2) All fraud votes would have to favor Biden over Trump We know both assumptions are completely false. No one state has shown to have hundreds of fraud votes, let alone thousands. And we have just as many, if not more examples of one-off voters committing voter fraud in favor of Trump. But even if the ratio was 3:1 fraud votes in favor of Biden over Trump, with 15,000 fraud votes in one state, that's only a +7,500 for Biden, and now, you still don't have enough fraud votes to overturn a single state!
I would like to see a first account of the interview process and also like to know what answer is expected. I think it is fair to ask the question to hear the response. You know anyone working for the RNC will be asked that question and how you answer says a lot. I don't think you have to flat out believe that the election was totally rigged but you can have concerns. I think it is fine to question any election. I think the 2020 election had a lot of changes that took place by state and local officials that may not have completely conformed to the state constitutions. Some of these were necessary due to the scare everyone had of COVID. When a community goes from 250,000 mail in votes to over 2.4 million mail in, I think you are crazy to not question the veracity of that vote. Does it mean you are an election denier? No! It means you have questions and if the left doesn't want that then who is really the party to be scared of? Anything to paint Trump and any of his supporters in a bad light is the flavor of the day until election time. I would encourage those for or against Trump to not get to invested in the media created story line without actual verified facts.
All I would say is around 45,000 total votes in three states and the election results would have come out different. I think with around 150 million total votes that only like .003%. To say that is not possible is idiotic, but on the same hand to say absolutely that happened is idiotic without proof.
Certainly much of the worldview of many Republicans seems to have flattened into either ‘with Trump or against him’, which has indeed resulted in several unfortunate outcomes.
Again, this is more than 10,000 fraud votes in three separate states each that is all breaking for Biden over Trump. Possible? Maybe, but highly unlikely. Because we're not talking 45,000 total votes across the entire country. We're talking 45,000 across just three states. For there to be 12,000 fraud votes in Arizona, for example, the percentage isn't .003%, but rather .36%. 10,000 fraud votes in CA or AL breaking either way wouldn't effect the outcome at all. And again, not only is there no evidence of widespread fraud, the evidence we do have suggests fraud votes can break either way. In other words, it would take more than 45,000 fraud votes to change the outcome, because not all fraud votes broke for Biden. Again, in Arizona, even if it was 3:1 fraud votes for Biden over Trump, it would take about 22,000 total fraud votes to have changed the outcome. Now you are looking at a fraud rate of .66%! There just aren't that many fraud votes in Arizona. Heck, there aren't likely enough fraud votes nationwide to change even one state!
As Robert Barnes said from the beginning, Sydney Powell and Mike Lindell were focused on the wrong thing. The first thing corrupt state officials in Georgia wanted to show Barnes and his team to look at was the voting machones.Tjat told Barnes that wasn't where the fraud was. Powell and Lindell took people's focus off signature verifications. Georgia officials lied and said they would match signatures but they never did. Voting machines were a red herring, as Barnes tried to explain to Powell. I said every nettor I know would vote the over on 10X your 3600 figure and then some. My guess is that the number of fraudulent votes is in the 6 figures. If Democrats really thought Biden won why didn't: a single one of them call for a full audit that by definition includes signature matching? This tells us everything we need to know about the Docratindset. Democrats fought tooth and nail to prevent audits. Why do Democrats love drop boxes? They make it easier to cheat and steal elections. Why do Democrats oppose voter IF laws. Same answer. Whatever makes it easier to steal elections and turn Erica into the USSR is what Democrats support. Why do Democrats always support the candidate that is least likely to control our borders? Eventually they think it will lead to more Democrat voters. Lower working class wages, destruction of our environment and less productivity is a price they're willing to pay. Shorter lifespans for Whites due to "deaths of despair? Not a problem. The goal is leftist authoritarian control.
So again, when Trump's own expert and the Cyber Ninjas didn't find anywhere close to 1000 fraud votes in Arizona, was it because they were incompetent? Looking for the wrong thing? HA! I get the feeling that even if there was a signature match audit, and it came back like all the other audits that Biden won, you'd still find something to bitch about. Again, every signature is Arizona is matched upon receipt. If there is no match, there is a curing process. Oh, and there was a signature match audit in Cobb County, GA. And the results? 99.99%+ accuracy rate! There simply isn't any evidence of widespread fraud from 2020. Certainly not enough to overturn a single state, let alone several states. And no amount of evidence is going to convince you, the Trump loving cult member!
I suspect massive fraud occurred in Fulton county. Audit Fulton and put all signature data online so we can see for ourselves.. Democrats would probably oppose. of course
