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What if AR stays?

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by Gatorologist, Nov 26, 2022.

  1. Wanne15

    Wanne15 GC Hall of Fame

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    He is terrible in the red zone. We were inside the five yard line for how many plays before we finally punched one in for the last score at fsu. A good qb wouldn’t need that many chances. AR is good but he is very rough still.
     
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  2. uftaipan

    uftaipan GC Hall of Fame

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    If he’s gone, he’s gone. But I’m curious about who’s telling him to leave. I’ve seen some potential, but certainly not the sustained, superior performance you think of when selecting an NFL QB. If he were to go entirely undrafted, no one should be surprised.
     
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  3. 96Gatorcise

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    If AR gets drafted 1st Rd, the guy's prices are going up and there will be a waiting list.
     
  4. UF24ou14

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    Probably right, but doesn't mean the quality of his work is worth the price.
     
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  5. Bongogator

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    No idea, why he would leave! He is not a good passer! Trask was a much better passer and is third on the Bucs roster. Cant see a team taking the gamble.
     
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  6. 96Gatorcise

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    Depends what you are looking act. If he has been training him for the NFL,A+ work. If he was specifically training him for college, not so much.
     
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  7. gator34654

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    IMHO he has not lived up to the hype. If I were advising him, I'd say stay in school, get your diploma, he is already making money with the NIL. I am very doubtful there will be an open competition if AR returns next year so why not see if you can improve reading defenses and passing.
    I think if he leaves early and gets drafted, he will make money to begin with but will wash out unless he moves to a different position.

    Either way, want all gator players to do well and follow their dreams.
     
  8. UF24ou14

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    53% passing, what is the NFL looking at?
     
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  9. 96Gatorcise

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    Measurables and potential
    He will blow up the combine with his speed and arm.
    Josh Allen was a career 56% passer in college.
     
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  10. gatorvargas

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    This would be the most Ill-advised draft pick ever.
     
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  11. BLING

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    I honestly don’t get how negative some are on AR. He was inconsistent for sure, but by some comments you’d think he played every game like the USF and Kentucky games (which indeed were disasters). He did get better as the season went on. Maybe playing tentative in the run game (a sign he already decided to move on anyway). I tend to think he could improve vastly with another season and the offense would go from “pretty good” to really special if AR was fully committed. Of course if he’s projected 1st round, I totally get why he’d go. It seems crazy to me that he’s projected that high, but it is what it is (draft based on potential rather than results).

    Whether we compete for a 10+ win season is more a question of improving that defense by any means necessary, other than UK and Vandy, most of the L’s were on the pathetic defense. So unless that is fixed, it doesn’t much matter who the QB is - it will come up short. But when you change out QB’s there’s always the chance the offense fails to improve year 1 to year 2 or the growing pains of a new QB are even worse.
     
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  12. WC53

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    5 pages. AR still gone…. ;)

    Next man up
     
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  13. wci347

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    Can you blame him? 8-4 is not getting us anywhere. But it might have gotten him hurt to exert the effort for those two additional wins.
     
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  14. wci347

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    At some point, the people in their circle tell them do what you have to do to help the team, but above all, stay healthy.

    that admonition stops overdrive gear.
     
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  15. bigkid12

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    He's not JA. Allen has all the important intangibles, that AR doesn't have.
     
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  16. msa3

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    He throws flat-footed most of the time. He doesn't turn his hips into the throw. His footwork is lousy. I don't care if he coes back or not -- dude's gotta make his own decisions about his own life -- but he's got a long way to go to be able to be an NFL QB.
     
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  17. Brodeur

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    Others disagree, but I think Josh Allen is a good comp. As someone who bet on him several times in Wyoming, I can tell you the roller coaster that was the Wyoming Josh Allen experience is similar to AR this year. Josh would throw some incredible downfield darts, then sky a screen pass 10 yards over the RB (imagine AR's hail mary at the end of Vandy game that went through the uprights, except as a screen pass). One big difference is Allen was a more willing and stronger runner, but he was also doing that against the Mountain West conference.

    Players that have the arm talent and measurables will get drafted. If AR was more accurate and prolific then he's in the discussion as a top 3 pick. Instead he'll probably be a late 1st rounder. Which makes sense, the best situation for him is probably a team that is set at QB right now but is willing to roll the dice on him for 2-3 years from now.
     
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  18. finorman

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    The only time I laughed during the FSU game was when the announcer said AR could throw it farther than Uncle Rico. I just don’t get it the way the ball comes out of his hand is as effortless as flicking a booger…. Drops a dime on Pearsall, then can’t hit a wide open touchdown in the flat while running to his right side. He breaks every articulation on Diabate’s lower extremity with his moves, then runs for 4 total yards against Ky. I’m no draft expert, but I don’t see how you use anything closer than a third day selection when you don’t know what guy will show up. I’m wishing him the best in his decision, but if Tebow couldn’t make it in the league he has a tough road.
     
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  19. Matthanuf06

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    Is this a joke?

    CBN called multiple non AR runs

    Then AR threw a ball and Odom dropped an easy TD

    How the heck is any of that on AR?
     
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  20. Gatorrick22

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    No