Welcome home, fellow Gator.

The Gator Nation's oldest and most active insider community
Join today!

New Trump special prosecutor overturned by Supreme Court, tied to IRS scandal

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by Gatorrick22, Nov 21, 2022.

  1. philnotfil

    philnotfil GC Hall of Fame

    16,904
    1,542
    1,718
    Apr 8, 2007
    Is there any evidence that while he was president he declassified the documents that were found in his possession when he was no longer president?

    What documents did Obama take?

    Interesting shift of the goalposts here, now it is only classified nuclear secrets that matter? I guess Hillary should be expecting an apology in that case.
     
  2. Sohogator

    Sohogator GC Hall of Fame

    3,568
    576
    358
    Aug 22, 2012
    Note that I didn’t tell you to seek medical help. It wouldn’t work.
     
  3. mdgator05

    mdgator05 Premium Member

    13,751
    1,579
    1,718
    Dec 9, 2010
    Says the guy who doesn't understand the topic of his own thread. Let's see, so far you have claimed that the SC tossed this guy off the case (they didn't) and that the House can do the same (they can't). This is an executive branch investigation. Or rather series of investigations.

    Second, Presidents don't have rights to the documents after their terms have expired nor can they just claim any document is declassified without any prior documentation. Those documents belong to the federal government, as managed by the National Archives. They typically work with the former President to set up a library, but they belong to the archives and any possession of documents is only done with their explicit permission.

    Beyond that, the notion of magical thought declassification is a completely unworkable system, as any past President could just claim that they declassified all documents that are classified in their mind and suddenly nothing is classified. Obviously, that is not in keeping with the law.

    And yes, people have the legal right to give you medical advice as long as they don't lie about their credentials when doing so. Which is why nobody has arrested you for your anti-vax posts.
     
    • Fistbump/Thanks! Fistbump/Thanks! x 2
  4. Gatorrick22

    Gatorrick22 GC Hall of Fame

    83,126
    24,647
    4,613
    Apr 3, 2007

    Jack Smith is a hack, and he has been found to be a fraud. Go back and see the IRS case involving Lois Lerner.

    And yes, presidents do have that right to de-classify any document they get their hands on.

    Let me ask you something. If he can't de-classify a document then who has more authority than the POTUS? Who has more power to tell the president of the U.S.A. that he cannot de-classify a document? I'll be waiting for you answer on that.

    My anti-vax is an opinion about the written facts on the efficacy of said "vaccine" authored by medical experts in the field of medicine... they were NOT my own invention.

    But Bling thinks he allowed to medically "diagnose" posters here, and that is very different indeed.

    And speaking of the vaccine and the covid-19 virus... looks like your Liberal friends at the FDA are recanting their 'absolute mandates' that they made about alternative cures/remedies for covid-19 during the pandemic.

    FDA Backtracks On Ivermectin – IOTW Report
     
    Last edited: Nov 21, 2022
    • Funny Funny x 1
  5. AzCatFan

    AzCatFan GC Hall of Fame

    Apr 9, 2007
    Presidents have authority to declassify. But process must be followed. Because without the process, how is someone without clearance supposed to know which docs are still classified, and which have been declassified? Any evidence Trump followed the process with the docs he took? No.
     
    • Fistbump/Thanks! Fistbump/Thanks! x 3
  6. GatorNorth

    GatorNorth Premium Member Premium Member

    16,164
    7,776
    3,203
    Apr 3, 2007
    Atlanta
    So let’s recap.

    OP Mischaracterizes his own article. Then demonstrates lack of foundational knowledge on how separation of powers work. Then moves the goal posts and doubles down instead of simply saying “my bad” when numerous posters point out inaccuracies, inconsistencies and incorrectness.

    Just another day at THFSG.
     
    • Fistbump/Thanks! Fistbump/Thanks! x 1
    • Winner Winner x 1
  7. BLING

    BLING GC Hall of Fame

    7,708
    632
    2,843
    Apr 16, 2007
    You had never heard of Jack Smith before this week (I sure as hell didn’t), and your entire opinion of him is based on some hack pieces by right-wing media, perhaps just this Solomon piece. The guy is a suit. A lawyer. A prosecutor. He’s your new enemy #1 because he’s investigating your lord god. That’s it. It’s as simple as this. His name could be Joe Thomas instead of Jack Smith, he could have entirely different prosecutorial credentials, and you would be spouting the same nonsense from the same “sources”.

    Realistically, you are in far less of a position to call this person a “hack” than the people you are upset about judging you. To put it kindly, you know nothing. Actually, you confidently spew nonsense from the bowels of the internet, which is far worse than merely knowing nothing. It’s negative knowledge. A brain dead human in a persistent vegetative state is at least at -0-.
     
    • Fistbump/Thanks! Fistbump/Thanks! x 5
    • Disagree Bacon! Disagree Bacon! x 1
  8. GatorNorth

    GatorNorth Premium Member Premium Member

    16,164
    7,776
    3,203
    Apr 3, 2007
    Atlanta
    • Informative Informative x 1
  9. coleg

    coleg GC Hall of Fame

    1,545
    709
    1,883
    Sep 5, 2011
    Seems that Rick is lapping up some of MTG's nonsense on defunding as well. Of course, right-wing media hacks mistakenly tout the Holman Rule .... unsurprisingly. Sure the House can vote to defund.... well maybe with the slim margin they have, maybe not. BUT then their amendment must go the the Senate where it would fail. Then even if the defunding amendment somehow got through the Senate. Think Biden would sign it? Sad how the maga types are so easily led around.... but also humorous.
     
    • Fistbump/Thanks! Fistbump/Thanks! x 1
  10. sierragator

    sierragator GC Hall of Fame

    13,496
    12,888
    1,653
    Apr 8, 2007
    I wonder how many death threats Jack Smith and his family have gotten since he was announced at SC? Plenty, I'm sure. Maga world is out for him for daring to proceed with addressing the question about whether to indict or charge the orange god.
     
  11. swampbabe

    swampbabe GC Hall of Fame

    3,343
    799
    2,143
    Apr 8, 2007
    Viera, FL
    How some people cross the street by themselves I’ll never know.
     
    • Funny Funny x 2
    • Like Like x 1
  12. WarDamnGator

    WarDamnGator GC Hall of Fame

    9,288
    913
    1,468
    Apr 8, 2007
    He also went back to edit/delete a few posts to make it seem like he was slightly less confused as he really was… thankfully they got quoted….
     
  13. VAg8r1

    VAg8r1 GC Hall of Fame

    17,761
    1,261
    1,513
    Apr 8, 2007
    Trump had the authority to declassify documents when he was president. To do so he had to follow a formal procedure. There is absolutely no evidence that he had done so. And by the way the FBI did not "break in" to Mar-a-Lago. They conducted a search pursuant to a lawfully issued search warrant.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  14. Gatorrick22

    Gatorrick22 GC Hall of Fame

    83,126
    24,647
    4,613
    Apr 3, 2007
    Lol.. do you ever stop whining? Now you're projecting nonsense about what you think other people know?. Nice try, but you're wrong again as usual.
     
  15. Gatorrick22

    Gatorrick22 GC Hall of Fame

    83,126
    24,647
    4,613
    Apr 3, 2007
    • Funny Funny x 1
  16. philnotfil

    philnotfil GC Hall of Fame

    16,904
    1,542
    1,718
    Apr 8, 2007
    Who does he have to claim it to?
     
    • Funny Funny x 1
  17. Sohogator

    Sohogator GC Hall of Fame

    3,568
    576
    358
    Aug 22, 2012
    To be fair to the board you don’t even know what’s in the links of the stories you post. Ya just look at the headline and if it’s MAGA you roll with it
     
    Last edited: Nov 21, 2022
    • Fistbump/Thanks! Fistbump/Thanks! x 2
  18. Gatorrick22

    Gatorrick22 GC Hall of Fame

    83,126
    24,647
    4,613
    Apr 3, 2007
    What are you trying to say here?
     
  19. Sohogator

    Sohogator GC Hall of Fame

    3,568
    576
    358
    Aug 22, 2012
    That your posts are fact free. I’m not sure that’s a medical issue though
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • Funny Funny x 1
  20. Gatorrick22

    Gatorrick22 GC Hall of Fame

    83,126
    24,647
    4,613
    Apr 3, 2007
    LMFAO!