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Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by rtgator, Nov 12, 2022.

  1. biggynugs

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    The nut jobs just use the time to count as an excuse. They will always find a way to nut job. If the count comes out same day, then they obviously didn’t count the votes accurately. The conspiracy argument isn’t about being correct or for on behalf of greater good. It’s to sow enough doubt to destroy the public confidence in the process.
     
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  2. rtgator

    rtgator Premium Member

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  3. rtgator

    rtgator Premium Member

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    You are WRONG! Read what Marchant said!

    Marchant's own words prove that his "coalition" of highly partisan, election-denying secretaries of state collectively intended to make sure Trump won in 2024.

    What the hell is this coalition??? Shouldn't a secretary of state serve only the people of that state??? Try explaining that.

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  4. Sohogator

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    Hobbs wins. That toxic tub of goo who calls itself Kari Lake can slither off to Faux News
     
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  5. scooterp

    scooterp GC Hall of Fame

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    Cut & paste all the bs you want… I could cherry pick shit from the totalitarian left all day long too. But I’m watching our bball game right now. Have a nice day.
     
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  6. rtgator

    rtgator Premium Member

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    You are clearly in denial.
     
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  7. scooterp

    scooterp GC Hall of Fame

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    Jayzess… less than 30 seconds. You are on point. Congrats

    We lost btw
     
  8. rtgator

    rtgator Premium Member

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    Not "cut and paste". FACT.

    Voters Reject Election Deniers Running to Take Over Elections Voters Reject Election Deniers Running to Take Over Elections

    "When my coalition of secretary of state candidates around the country get elected, we’re going to fix the whole country, and President Trump is going to be president again in 2024,” Mr. Marchant said at a rally held by the former president in October.

    During the 2020 election, it was secretaries of state — both Democrats and Republicans — who stood up to efforts by Mr. Trump and his allies to overturn the results. State election officials certified vote tallies over Republican objections, protected election workers from aggressive partisan poll watchers and, in at least one case, refused a personal entreaty from the president.

    The next spring, several candidates pushing the false narrative that the 2020 election had been stolen announced their intention to run to be the top election officials in critical states.
     
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  9. scooterp

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    Yeah. It’s called DEMOCRACY.

    Listen to your leader’s speech from Bali today. Classic
     
  10. rtgator

    rtgator Premium Member

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    Making baseless accusations of voter fraud even though your own audit failed to find any voter fraud, refusing to accept the verified/certified election results, and forming a partisan coalition of election deniers to overturn future election results to make sure your guy "wins" is NOT American democracy, as envisioned by our founding fathers.

    He's your fairly elected leader too. :) His speech was very good.
     
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  11. rivergator

    rivergator Too Hot Mod Moderator VIP Member

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  12. Gatorhead

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    Clarence Thomas is considering a new "brief" -

    Fellow Americans (ah-hem conservatives) after consultation with the other Trump appointed nominie's we will be filing a brief that essentially goes, like this:

    To meet the intent of our infamously "screwed" over, defacto-president, we will be filing a brief that says:

    In all forthcoming elections, votes will be counted thusly:
    1) If a Republican draws the first counted vote in any election - The Republican will win, because they had the lead and anything else is bogus.
    2) if a Republican is in the lead, at any time, in the vote counting process, the count is immediately terminated and the Republican is declared the winner.
    3) If Newsmax, Faux news or Focus on the Family endorses a Republican Candidate the Republican is the winner, irregardless of the vote.

    This is a public service announcement brought to you by Roger Stone, Steve Bannon and Focus on the Facist ( - eh excuse me - "The Family").
     
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  13. gatorchamps0607

    gatorchamps0607 Always Rasta VIP Member

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    Whats the difference between deniers now and people who denied that Trump was the legit president? Clearly, Jan 6 is another animal.

    Specifically speaking about denying the results or legitimacy of the vote.

    Is there something inherently differnt about Hillary saying she wouldn't accept the results or all the dems parotting that and the "illegitimate" president mantra?

    The back and forth kindergardten BS continues and so does the hypocrisy. It's only a problem when its not your side who is fanning the flames.
     
  14. oragator1

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    again, a few loud mouths whining about the vote isn’t the issue. AZ trying to pass a law where the state legislature can override the vote, Wayne county Michigan refusing to certify until jail was threatened, PA MI, AZ, GA WI and others threatening to send shadow delegations to send it to a house vote, people unwilling to concede, ever…it’s a completely different level of worry and danger now. Those things were stopped because a handful of people in important positions did the right thing (mainly the MI and PA speakers of the house among others) but there is no guarantee we will have those same human guard rails again next time.
    This is why Lake lost, why Mastriano lost, why 12 of 13 SOSs of state who were part of that caucus claiming fraud lost, in fact all the deniers in purple states lost. But it becomes a feedback loop, instead of looking in the mirror and saying “why did we lose?”, they simply blame fraud, and the views become more entrenched. Good news is some republicans are finally seeing the light, as witnessed in the reaction to Trump’s announcement. Which is why I have some hope this silliness will die down a bit.

    /rant.
     
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  15. rtgator

    rtgator Premium Member

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    Stop misrepresenting Clinton's position on the 2016 election. Clinton CONCEDED the election to Trump the very next day.

    Please give three examples of Dems "parroting . . . the illegitimate president mantra".

    The Dems wanted investigation of the (since proven) Russian interference in the 2016 election, in terms of hacking emails, holding pro-Trump rallies, and producing pro-Trump social media propaganda. But no one claimed the Russians altered ballots or changed the vote counts, making the election "illegitimate".
     
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  16. AzCatFan

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    Also, please give examples of 2018 D equivalent to "Stop the Steal" candidates. Was there a 2018 D equivalent to this year's Kari Lake, who's entire campaign centered around the 2020 campaign being stolen? None that I can think of.
     
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  17. jhenderson251

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    Conundrum. How do I best rate a post with which I agree and also view as optimistic?
     
  18. gatorchamps0607

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    I really shouldn't have to google this for you. If this isn't common knowledge then you are doing yourself a disservice and are being biased instead of looking at all sides of the issues. Im not a fan of Trump in any way - Im a fan of not being hypocrites. Now Im not saying you are one, just saying that this whole "win for democracy" is straight up horse chit. Stop acting like anyone gives a flying F about that on either side.

    Neither side wants democracy, they want to be in power and have no intentions of giving up that power if they had their way. What candidate has ever ran on taking 4 years and then allowing the other side to have a turn? Just stop it, both sides are for themselves and their handlers wallets - NOT the American people.

    One Minute mark

    Hillary saying Russia interference happened

    Jimmy Carter saying Trump is not legit president due to Russia

    John Lewis - illegtimate president due to Russia


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjnX4IUt_eo&t

    You need more?

    Let me help you, the whole "Trump _____________" or whatever your argument is going to be against me wont work. Im not a Trump guy and Im not a Republican. I just like to call out blatant hypocrisy and this bullcrap about "democracy" you guys are trying to shove down everyone's throat. Nobody other than the intended audience believes any of the political word salads you guys toss around.
     
  19. metalcoater

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    Free stuff for all usually plays well.
     
  20. gatorchamps960608

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    There were many, many differences that everyone not trying to make a false equivalence can easily see.
     
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