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GNFP -- Offense (Georgia Game) [Emmitto's Notes at #20]

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  1. ETGator

    ETGator Long-Time Gator Stuck In East Tennessee Moderator

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    Just like the defense thread, I'll stick-together some clips from Twitter for the offense commentary . . . starting with the elephant in the room: open WRs.

     
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  2. ETGator

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    Another missed opportunity for a TD . . .

     
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  3. ETGator

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    A play that has been successful this season on 3rd and 7 . . . wasn't against a bigger, more physical defense. GNFP doesn't like it (and who would with the benefit of hindsight?) but it was almost 40% effective before the Georgia game. So . . . what? Burn a TO? Try to get another play in and listen to "clock management issues" criticism? Go with the call and try to make it work?

    Sometimes the other team is just ready for your tendencies.
     
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  4. ETGator

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    Again, nothing wrong with the play call. It's execution here.

    Here's to hoping it starts clicking Saturday at TAMU.
     
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  5. ETGator

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    Here's the entire podcast for the offense:

     
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  6. Tito22

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    Damn that throw was awful
     
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  7. ETGator

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    At least he missed it high/long where there couldn't be an interception . . . but Montrell Johnson was a much easier throw and wide open on that play.
     
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  8. Agator88

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    I wonder if he's just in his own head about the turnovers being the worst case scenario and he's missing to prevent a turnover instead of create a TD. If that ball in just thrown more inside so Zip doesn't have to turn and jump he runs under it, but being too cautious makes him throw to the side it can't be picked. I think its a positive that he's taking care of the ball better the last month, it just seems like at times he makes the right read but there is that slight hesitation in there that causes inaccurate throws or short throws when the big play was wide open.
     
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  9. MarineG8R

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    I get sticking with your guy and trying to develop because he is a freak athlete, but you gotta change it up and see what the other guys bring. Did Miller loose a thumb or something? Is Kitna dead?


    Has Top Billin made any videos?
     
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  10. tegator80

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    Well no wonder AR had problems against UGa,


    They were wearing LSU's uniforms!!!
     
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  11. Matthanuf06

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    For those that listened to GNFP they are really down on Billy’s offense. A lot of the stuff is nonsensical. Bad passing scheme that relies on beating double teams with virtually no coverage beaters. Also no “quick game” in the scheme which allows the DL to tee off.

    Basically our passing scheme is high school level whereas running game is PhD level.
     
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  12. Matthanuf06

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    It’s a bad play, especially in modern college football.

    It’s a 5v2 route combo, that’s a pretty damn tough scenario.

    Best case you check down and get minimal yards. If they cover the check down tighter it’s then 4v2…. That is still BAD offensive football

    Compare that to Tennessee… they get 2 WRs conflicting 1 defender. Whereas we have 4 or 5 defenders on 2 WR
     
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  13. ETGator

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    Thanks @tegator80! I guess he didn't put one out for offense this week.
     
  14. tegator80

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    For whatever reason, they seem to have some significant gaps between the two. I am sure it will be posted before the next game.
     
  15. ETGator

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    On the play with only 2 WRs he specifically said Georgia played exactly the defense Florida expected and Florida could have easily exploited . . . with only 2 WRs in "basically a high school scheme" except AR didn't see the available opening and hit the check-down man. He showed 2-3 ways the same, exact play goes for big yardage.
     
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  16. MarineG8R

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    That doesn't fit the narrative.
     
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  17. thom1507

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    The throw needed to be to the back third of the end zone. Why it was closer to the pylon is puzzling and really helped the defender catch up to make it look like a more difficult throw.
     
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    These breakdowns are incredible for one major reason --- it shows how little I truly know about football!
     
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  19. SeabudGator

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    Our passing game clearly needs a quick game aspect but watch the above video where, with a clean pocket and 2 WRs running clear to the end zone, AR just fails to make a high school level throw. Quick reads are often across the middle and a fired ball high smells of INT. Add on to the above that if AR does not run with any aggression, our offense is just abysmal. Which bets the question of where are Kitna/Miller? Lots to unpack but players effect the scheme we run and vice versa. Nothing pretty to see here for coaches or players but not sure we can lay all this at the foot of either group. Obviously, by year 3, the coaches will bear all the responsibility.
     
  20. Emmitto

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    Some notes:

    • AR starts off disregarding RB checks, so does UGA D. They just bail to downfield routes. Wide open RB on the play AR scrambled around and took the shot at the end. Refusing to honor these routes is making the 2 and 3 man routes downfield almost useless. D's HAVE to commit resources to the check or there's just no chance.
    • Running game shut down by UGA DL consistently winning 1v1's against OL all day.
    • AR good ball on 3&6 but Zip bobbles it and no chance to turn it up.
    • 3&16 UGA puts five guys on the first down line anticipating curls and it works, Ricky is open. But OL loses immediately to three man rush, AR has to bail and dump to ETN who can't make it.
    • DT 0 technique was trouble all day. DT basically reacting to first move to beat C to the side he goes to in order to disrupt the zone run scheme by blowing up the OL cohesiveness.
    • UGA brings 6 on 3&9. AR late and high to Shorter with Ricky left wide open on corner route. But pressure was already getting home, so not an easy play, but Shorter came open late because the cover 3 CB had initially tracked Shorter instead of Ricky deep and bailed when he saw the disaster unfolding. Potential TD.
    • UGA brings five again, get home before AR can hit wide open Henderson.
    • There is almost NO short game after 8 games is another BN mystery so far. All plays seem to take a lot of time, all the pressure and coverage UGA can bring calls for these short drops.
    • Pearsall runs nasty stop-out-go but DL wins again with just four and third straight stop.
    • Screen pass works for first first down of the game at 11:34 of Q2.
    • Receivers actually spread out, only five OL. Seam is wide open, another possible TD, chunk for sure. Overthrow.
    • UF taking shots like mad. Just not happening.
    • Shorter destroys DB with dig-go. But UGA bringing five and get AR out of sorts, this is the sky ball to Shorter that came up short (and also dudes all over him out there.)
    • Is it realistic that these plays are going to work now? Will it work with better personnel? All the questions we want to know.
    • 3&10, AR gets a good pocket but settles for short dump. Needed to climb and look for the deeper routes, went short too early.
    • AR drops one of those dimes to Shorter that start people saying cray stuff about NFL.
    • UF fakes a quick pass, UGA doesn't even react because we simply just don't do it. Then we come back to the fake pass late, bad throw, and no go.
    • The odd 3rd and long run plays start. First one is 3&12 in 6v6, no numbers advantage.
    • Torrence rough game. Gets dozered on 3&12, AR on the run, dropped after a short gain.
    • First play 3Q, Pearsall motions into 5 wide, ETN screen, first down.
    • Barber now at LT. UGA in a light box. Torrence gets his blocks this time, Shorter always good downfield, ETN goes for another first.
    • AR misses S bailing on deep sideline but still has a shot with Pearsall, but throws it pretty much the only spot to make it incomplete.
    • AR gets blasted on the dead play. He seems to get fired up afterwards. Two plays later stiff arms a guy with the angle, runs through two more, bulls another.
    • UGA has two DB's covering each other like we used to block each other on play Shorter is overthrown in EZ. MJ also open for TD.
    • First split-zone play that works at 9:36 in 3Q for ETN TD.
    • The throw to Shorter in the EZ with wide open RB in flats was not a bad choice by AR, but the throw was off target. But the guy who rallied back was indeed the flats defender. AR body mechanics also weak on this throw.
    • The Henderson TD was actually a good play by the S, coming to the weak spot in the cover 2. So, it was either a lucky bad throw, or a brilliant sucker dart by AR. Looks odd that it was a lazer if he was trying to go over the S, but who knows. Either way, big TD.
    • Pearsall is in the flat literally with no one else on the screen. As in, 30 yards away. We just simply DO NOT do check downs. However, AR does indeed climb a war pocket and hits Shorter for a nice gain.
    • DE's blew up Torrence and other leads/pulls all day by just refusing to be blocked into the preferred angles and gaps.
    • 4th down blown up on total whiff by OG, otherwise the mesh was open.
    • 4&11 UGA brings 6, gets home immediately.
    • Ha, we run PA on 4&17 down 42-20. Then about a half dozen goofy things ending with the throwaway.

    Pretty bad stuff outside of a good stretch coming out of the half. Almost all the things fans like to blame in one place here. Scheme, talent, personnel, execution.
     
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