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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. duggers_dad

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    Are there any credible studies that prove the thing for which vaccines are needed ?
     
  2. duggers_dad

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    Sounds like your case supports the study.
     
  3. VAg8r1

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    Really? You're in a very small minority. Even most other anti-vaxxers believe that the Covid-19 is caused by a virus, they just happen to believe that between natural immunity from prior infections and the fact that for most people the virus causes relatively minor symptoms vaccines aren't necessary or in any event shouldn't be mandated.
    COVID-19: Discovery, diagnostics and drug development
    Coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) started as an epidemic in Wuhan in 2019, and has since become a pandemic. Groups from China identified and sequenced the virus responsible for COVID-19, named severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2), and determined that it was a novel coronavirus sharing high sequence identity with bat- and pangolin-derived SARS-like coronaviruses, suggesting a zoonotic origin. SARS-CoV-2 is a member of the Coronaviridae family of enveloped, positive-sense, single-stranded RNA viruses that infect a broad range of vertebrates.
    Covid-19 disease (novel coronavirus)
     
  4. duggers_dad

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    I’m smaller than a small minority. Germ Theory has a religion-like hold on the populace. But no, no virus has ever been properly isolated let alone proven to be deadly. Finding a stained artifact in a good of materials, some of them toxic, hardly classifies as isolation. And if you’re going to order people into hiding, you should damn well better have proof of pathogen.
     
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  5. VAg8r1

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    Seems to be much more of a case of the events occurring after administration of the vaccine rather than establishing a true casual relationship between the vaccine and the events. For example if a person with severe coronary artery disease who has a relatively high probability of experiencing a heart attack has one after receiving a vaccination was it caused by the vax or by other factors?
     
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  6. duggers_dad

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    Note that correlation only flows one way. Ex: person dies of heart attack within 30-60 days of testing positive for Covid. Cause of death - Covid. Person drops dead 48 hours after receiving vaccine. Other causes need to be entertained. Everything must be funneled into sustaining a particular narrative due to massive sunk costs.
     
  7. gators81

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    Yes, yes it does, which was the primary point of my post. I also stated that with those things being true, I’m still alive today and doing fine. The study likely is accurate but doesn’t differentiate how many instances were unnecessary precautions and how many were serious medical conditions. If 90% of the people that missed work or sought medical attention were fine after 24 hours, who cares?
     
  8. duggers_dad

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    Your experience, along with the study, appears to support the contention that these mRNA injections have a nasty side-effects profile. And you may be among the more fortunate. I have two acquaintances who were paralyzed by the injections.
     
  9. gators81

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    No, no it does not. You’re not acknowledging that the study makes no distinction between necessary and precautionary. You’re reading this article and assuming that the bulk of the 25% are worst case scenarios like your friends and not like me. The article does not support that at all, it gives minimal specifics.
     
  10. duggers_dad

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    The study does not point to masses of newly injected advised to miss work for purely precautionary measures. Data overall does support side effects all out of proportion to past vaccines.
     
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    I went to a grocery store on the outskirts of San Antonio today (here for my sister in law’s wedding). Saw quite a few masks. Was not expecting that. It appears people aren’t letting this go anywhere.
     
  14. duggers_dad

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    A disease so dangerous you have to fight it with machine guns ...

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    Well I do know for a fact that 3 people I know died from the vaccine. My brother's wife died from a heart attack 2 days after getting the 1st vaccine jab. Then last week, a coworker of his 24 yr old son died after getting the booster. He was an athlete with no pre-existing conditions. Autopsy indicated no other reasons for his death. A wife of a church friend died from the vaccine but she had MS. Basically, you are better off not getting the vaccine if you are older than 65 and/or have pre-existing conditions. I can't explain the 24 yr old's death. The young man was healthier than any of us. Oh officially my younger brother's stroke was caused by the vaccine too. That was days after the 1st shot a little more than a year ago. It was a mini stroke but he has Type 2 Diabetes. Basically if you have diabetes you are better off not getting the vaccine or booster.
     
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    yep, never heard of anyone dying of a heart attack before so definitely caused by the vaccine. And also never heard of a 24 year old athlete with no pre-existing conditions dying either so only reasonable explanation is the vaccine caused it. But the most compelling argument for the vaccine killing people is that someone with MS died.
     
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  19. duggers_dad

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    The day irony died ...

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  20. Gatorrick22

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    Yeah, "reduces severity" is not the same thing as preventing it...