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Hurricane a'comin (Ian)

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by pkaib01, Sep 20, 2022.

  1. gatorpa

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    What a jackass. It all about geography..

    I guess she thinks the Pubs use earthquake tech on the lefty coast…
     
  2. gatorpa

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    Who has suggested government funding for disaster relief is wasteful Gov spending?

    Obviously I don’t watch what every Pol says…
     
  3. gatorpa

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    Actually the NE side is typically the worst side to be on. the south and west side is typically the weakest side

    “The bottom-left side is considered the weakest section of a hurricane but can still produce dangerous winds. These winds are coming from off-shore and wrapping around the backside of the hurricane's eye, so the friction with land has helped them weaken some.”
    Which part of a hurricane is the strongest?
     
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  4. oragator1

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    It is the right front quadrant that’s usually the worst. The right front quadrant (the area to the right of the eye that makes landfall first) here was was south of eye as it came in because of the direction of the storm. The reason for that is that the left side is pulling winds and energy from onshore so it isn’t as strong as the energy that comes from the water
    Where the right side is coming from, and the front side obviously comes in before the the eye has come in and weakening has started, which is when the backside comes in.
    But I guess this storm was an anomaly in that regard a bit as I read around a bit tonight.
     
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  5. mdgator05

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    See, for example, Marco Rubio. He utilized a roof repair of a museum in DC as an example of why he didn't vote for the Sandy relief package, when the roof was damaged by Sandy (which smashed the DC area with some pretty nasty storms as well).

    GOP Sen Marco Rubio confronted over past opposition to hurricane relief despite asking for new funds
     
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    Not near a particular hospital, but there is some large electrical infrastructure (and that is above ground). I honestly have no idea where those lines go or what direction they are feeding power to/from. I assume the proximity to this infrastructure is what helps. Same house lost power for several days from Charlie, so I wasn’t intending to imply underground makes our power 100% foolproof. But unless the whole grid is down it seems pretty resilient. Ian gave us a few flickers but never out. For LCEC customers in the Cape, for example, they were down 100%. I assume that included some HOA communities with underground’s, but obviously the Cape took a more brutal hit than say the Ben Hill Gruffin, FGCU, Estero areas east of 75. I haven’t ventured much west of 75 in Lee County yet. Lee supposedly had 92% FPL customers without power in the immediate aftermath, so I guess we were part of that lucky 8% (along with Babcock Ranch).

    This storm is far broader than Charlie was. Big issue even for those with power is also the lack of gas. Statistically the power situation is starting to get worked through, so hopefully the gas situation is resolved not long afterwards. I haven’t even tried to fill up because of how crazy it’s been out there.
     
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  7. tampagtr

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    Another Cape Verde out there with 70% chance of developing over 5 days, and could follow the same general route into the Gulf.
     
  8. demosthenes

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    Thanks, I’m not familiar with the area so I was speculating there could be an alternative crossing point. Not good for residents and businesses who just 8 days ago were blissfully living life.
     
  9. oragator1

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    the one with a seventy percent chance won’t make it across the ocean as of now. The one with a 40 percent chance might be an issue, but or chance as of now.

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  10. tampagtr

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    Yeah I got them messed up. I made the mistake of listening to my wife's anxieties without checking. Sorry about that. I was just coming back to correct it after I looked at everything.
     
  11. oragator1

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    haha, we’ve all been there. Here is a good synopsis of it. Right now it shouldn’t be panic inducing.

     
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  12. G8trGr8t

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    Im west of 75. Several gas stations open within 2 miles of me. Filled up my generator cans this am so should be okay for another 6 days even if no more gas.
     
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  13. G8trGr8t

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    No, no other alternative routes are available. One road in/out is it. Lots of employees will be searching for work as all those businesses on island likely shut down for a year
     
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  15. BLING

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    I could see some people far south in
    Naples or even on the river in fort Myers not believing it could happen to them. Naples was never near the cone.

    However to not evacuate the islands and beaches seems like insanity, especially true for those in wooden structures. I guess there was some overconfidence that they survived Charlie and (to a lesser extent) Irma and thus would make it through again, but this was a different beast.
     
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  16. defensewinschampionships

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    I think the cone does a disservice to people. Lulls people outside the cone into complacency. If you live on a barrier island or in a low lying inland area, and the storm is coming to your side of the state (gulf or Atlantic) you should pay close attention.
     
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  17. tampagtr

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    If a tropical storm, much less a hurricane, passes near you, good chance you will lose power and if you fail to clear your yard and cover your windows, you run a real risk of damage. That matters whether or not you are oceanfront.

    Happened to Tampa in 2004, with Irma and Ian. No direct hits by hurricanes.

    Just a matter of personal decision making, but we put up the shutters when the track showed that even in the the most optimistic scenario, we would get winds.

    I think if I lived on an island, I would be ready to get out on short notice if the storm was supposed to pass by even if not projected to hit. I wouldn’t leave until more certain, but I would be ready. Of course, we have luxuries many do not. So not judging. Just my thought process
     
  18. philnotfil

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    The site of landfall doesn't appear to have ever been outside the cone.

    IAN Graphics Archive: <br> 3-day Forecast Track and Watch/Warning Graphic

    There is a dislaimer at the top of every update to the storm forecast that reminds people that this is the projected path of the center of the storm and that hazardous conditions will exist outside the storm. If people close to the cone are complacent, that is a problem with them, not with the cone.
     
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  19. g8trjax

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    Yeah, doesn't make a lot of sense not to bail from the barrier islands when a cat 4 is bearing down on you, not like the folks don't have the money to camp out inland for however long. The only thing I can think of is once you leave, you're typically not allowed back to check on your property until the PTB allow it but as it turns out in this case, the residents of sanibel and captiva are just screwed.
     
  20. defensewinschampionships

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    I agree it's not the cone's fault. I guess I should have said "people's perception of the cone." People just don't like to leave.
     
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