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War in Ukraine

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by PITBOSS, Jan 21, 2022.

  1. G8trGr8t

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    posted that a couple of days back. did you catch the first part? If you are anywhere near fire, you are screwed...chechen commander telling these poor guys the truth. bring tampons to plug bullet holes, get your own med supplies...feel bad for anybody that isn't joining up by choice
     
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  2. duggers_dad

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    What’s stopping them ? What’s stopping the US from *officially* putting boots on the ground ?
     
  3. duggers_dad

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    From the source that reported that the Ghost of Kyiv was real.
     
  4. duggers_dad

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    Stories reported as real by Western Media ...

    Ukrainian garrison on Snake Island crying “F-U Russian ship,” and fighting to their deaths.

    The Ghost of Kyiv.

    Half of Russian troops frost bitten.

    Twenty Russian generals killed the first month.

    Russia to run out of ammo by early March.

    Russia losing the equivalent of its entire contingent in Ukraine by June.

    Russia losing more than three times its number of tanks by June.

    Russia trying to melt down nuclear reactors.

    Russia shelling nuclear reactor it controls.

    Russia firing Ukrainian missiles from Ukrainian territory on its own collaborators.

    Russia mass-raping women and children in the same areas that voted overwhelmingly to join Russia.

    Putin has cancer and has gone into hiding.

    Shoigu leading coup against Putin.

    Just a sampling from the clown car which is Western media ...
     
  5. Gatorhead

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    Eerily reminiscent of the "Volksturm"
     
  6. duggers_dad

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    If you can’t win a real war, at least win an imaginary war.
     
  7. ursidman

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    A big picture of Putin’s war from a few months ago. The Thesis: We may not acknowledge it yet but WWIII began in 2014. I found it thought provoking. Suggest reading the whole article.
     
  8. duggers_dad

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    I wouldn’t the US has failed to recognize it. I’d say the US had a hand in instigating it. Interesting that the various anti war sites I peruse blame the West principally for the conflict in Ukraine.
     
  9. uftaipan

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    Maybe not quite there yet. More like the Volksgrenadiers, who still had something that looked like government organization: uniforms, standardized weapons, leadership … but not much else.
     
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  10. duggers_dad

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    Of course there are lots of Ukrainians who sport swastikas and revere a certain WWII Nazi collaborator. And they do have an outsized influence on Ukrainian politics.

    Referring to these as ‘Nazis’ may be a convenient handle for Putin. On the other hand, I suppose Russians could be forgiven for being a little sensitive about these kinds of folks.

    Here is an analysis of what is really afoot. And it serves to explain why so many Ukrainians were so ready to trade bodies for shells for Biden ...

     
  11. chemgator

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    Great-granddaughter of Nikita Krushchev says that Putin is setting himself up for a revolution (coup). She is trying to get her family out of the country.

     
  12. duggers_dad

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    My earlier odds for revolution remain: even lower than odds of revolution in the US. 0% in Russia. 1% in the US.
     
  13. chemgator

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    Big Russian surrender expected in Lyman, a key railroad hub city in Donetsk region, any day now. The city is almost surrounded, and Ukraine is taking towns to the east. Russians can surrender or starve.

    Illegal annexation fails to hide gulf between what Putin wants and what his forces can hold | CNN

     
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  14. duggers_dad

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    “To advance to this point, the Ukrainians have now expended an irreplaceable portion of the army their NATO overlords worked so hard to assemble over the course of the summer. Yes, there may still be several thousand less-capable soldiers left to nominally staff future engagements, but they have lost large numbers of their “foreign volunteer” shock troops as well as vast quantities of western-supplied equipment and limited stores of ammunition that can no longer be readily replaced due to the simple fact that all the NATO countries of Europe, and even the United States itself have simply run out of their finite inventories of the necessities of modern warfare.”

    Turning Point
     
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  15. uftaipan

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    The most insightful part:
     
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  16. duggers_dad

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    Bumbling idiots grinding America’s great proxy to dust. What would happen to us if we had to face a real military ?
     
  17. Norcaligator

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    Tankie whistling past the graveyard.
     
  18. duggers_dad

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    Western media reporting on three topics today, strangely omitting a fourth ...

    LYMAN - has become something of a fixation for Ukraine, which is absorbing terrible losses, apparently to say they’ve captured a town of 15,000 before the war, but now largely deserted. But relief battlegroups have reached Lyman and Russian counterattacks are underway. The roads to the town remain under Russian control.

    MASSES leaving Russia - likely 300,000 had left since partial-mobilization was announced. Mobilization is proceeding apace and the reinforcements will be arriving at the front much faster than most anticipated.

    RUSSIAN ECONOMY collapsing - this is a story that gets trotted out, every few weeks, then fritters out. It is confession by projection. Europe is imploding. And the only remaining question is to what degree the US will be dragged down with it.
     
  20. slayerxing

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    The economic outlook for Europe and Russia is grim. I don't see how much is going to change for either group in the short-term. War will do that. It's going to continue to decline for just about everyone.

    It is interesting to me that Russian apologists are essentially saying that everything is going well- when Russia has been forced to drain all of their experienced troops from all of their postings all over the world and bring them to Ukraine and the best case scenario is that they are maybe going to be able to hold on to what they took and maybe (maybe) go back on the offensive over the winter, suggesting that the war will continue for at least several more months. And if anything happens to the energy sector - which the west still has not hit as hard as it can, the Russian economy will fold. It's already riding the razor's edge, much like most of Europe as it is.

    And I read the linked article on the "war has just begun" and this idea that NATO is the only group using up old stocks of ammo and equipment is ridiculous. The Russians are trying to scrape stuff together themselves. Hence their purchases recently of equipment and ammunition from Iran and North Korea.

    Ultimately, if Russia fully mobilizes, I don't see why they couldn't defeat Ukraine. They are a much larger country with a much larger military. But this idea that they are somehow getting out of this cheaply now is dead and buried. I remember back at the beginning we didn't even think Ukraine would last 3-weeks. LOL