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FBI Executed a Warrant at Mar a Lago; the Investigation Continues

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by duchen, Aug 8, 2022.

  1. enviroGator

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    Regardless of if he could or did declassify them, there is the very important question people should be asking on if he should.

    If these documents were considered "Top Secret" there is no reason in hell an exiting President should be declassifying them let alone taking them with him.
     
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  2. mutz87

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    You're right in the "rush" part, no doubt.

    I would however not want those names stay redacted in perpetuity. Government/politicos like to classify a lot of information that has no biz being classified in the first place, which is my big concern.
     
  3. GatorNorth

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    DOJ: “Sir, please give us our classified documents back”

    Trump: “I didn’t take anything with me”

    DOJ: “Sir, we know you did. Here’s a subpoena for them.”

    Trump: “Thanks, I’m just going to ignore that”

    DOJ: “sir, here’s a search warrant. We are here to pick up our documents”.

    Trump “This was done in darkness, what a witch hunt! Outrageous. I’m such a victim. Why does everyone hate me”

    Trump lawyer: “I watched the search in person and the Trump’s watched it all on CCTV from NY. Probably saw it better than I did. “

    DOJ: sir, here’s your inventory of what we took. 20 boxes. 11 sets classified items, some top secret, and some other things”.

    Trump: “Hey I declassified all that stuff.

    DOJ: “Sir, none of the documents were processed and marked declassified, and you don’t have the power to do it now.

    Trump: “this is a witch hunt”
     
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  4. murphree_hall

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    Yep, I made a similar point. If he declassified then, he is essentially saying they do not contain any sensitive information. The docs are now unclassified according to him and can be read by anyone… even our enemies. I doubt that is the case.
     
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  5. PITBOSS

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    It was a fbi raid. Why will it “turn out to be nothing”? It sure doesn’t sound like nothing.
     
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  6. Gatorrick22

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    Lol... now the DOJ is trying to make President Trump out to be a spy?

    The Democrats are the communists that We The People have suspected all along.

    This DOJ must be held accountable for their illegal smearing and framing.
     
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  7. gatorchamps960608

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    You've already been made a fool several times during this situation.

    How about you learn and grow a bit and see how it plays out before any future potential embarassment?
     
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  8. homer

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    Let it play out before you pass judgement.
     
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  9. gatorchamps960608

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    The top nutjob Trump sites are working to find out information on the FBI agents doxed by Breitbart to plan violence against them and their families.
     
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  10. GatorNorth

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    Wrong again, yet consistent.


    The Espionage Act covers the refusal to return security documents, not just spying.

    Spying and framing? At least you’re gonna go down swinging.
     
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  11. pkaib01

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    As @duchen has pointed out, the Espionage Act has many sections regarding classified material. Probable cause showing trump violated the Act does not necessarily mean he committed espionage. Doesn't discount it either.
     
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  12. gatorchamps960608

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    Trump reminds me of Michael Scott screaming out, "I declare bankruptcy!"

    Whether it's invoking Executive Privilege or declassifying documents, there is a processed involved. It's not a magic wand thing.
     
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  13. StrangeGator

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    Not yet but he definitely looks like a hoarder.

    What does this have to do with communism?

    Get back to us when you have proof of this. We'll wait. Oh look, it's 5:30, time to take your meds. NURSE!
     
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  14. PITBOSS

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    Many trump followers latch onto simplistic demagoguery and seek info that provides confirmation bias. Even though they don’t require logic for their personal reasoning, most rationale people do. You really need to provide some basis, backup or justification for these I-follow-trump-no-matter-what-so-fbi-is-wrong posts.
     
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  15. duchen

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    Shame on Trump’s defenders and supporters. He had no business having any of these documents. No business having possession of top secret documents outside of the White House. Utterly reckless if he was not up to no good with him. That is the best you can say for him. And If the multiple public sourcing is right and these are nuclear secrets, that is even worse. We need answers and if he takes the Fifth, —— him.
     
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  16. GatorRade

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    I am remembering the Mueller report a bit differently. I recall something more like Mueller would not make a recommendation of action against the president leaving this up for the DOJ to decide. For the determination of obstruction, he also left this open.

    Regardless, it is clear the right leaning folk on here mostly considered it a nothing burger and those on the left were convinced he committed a crime. And basically the same is true in reverse for the Hillary server controversy.
     
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  17. PITBOSS

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    Maga is supposedly “back the blue”. when it’s convenient. we have Jan 6 and now trump with class docs and it’s a fringe right war on the fbi. Such hypocrisy.
     
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  18. StrangeGator

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    Recently checked my FB feed. Many of the people who were raging about the FBI raid earlier this week are now sharing quotes from the bible or Jesus memes. G-d bless them.
     
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  19. GatorRade

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    I don’t really know how to feel about these public official investigations honestly. A former (or current) president and a presidential candidate really shouldn’t be any more above the law than you or I. Then again, the nature of these individuals makes every action for or against them very political seeming from the outside, and the FBI just isn’t wielding the public trust that it seems to have had in the 1950s. Seems like you’d really want to have some cut and dried unclassified evidence to make a move on one of these people.
     
  20. BLING

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    Full. Blown. Insanity. Cult.
     
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