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Why Are Police So Bad at Their Jobs?

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by wgbgator, Jun 2, 2022.

  1. wci347

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    Solving crimes can often involve violence. Many people in law enforcement have degrees and go to law school. Many become elected officials.

    We live in a society where we will pay someone 100 million over 3-4 years to hit a ball over a fence 40 times a year in 700 at bats. But we call dumb and unworthy people who EVERY DAY put their lives on the line to keep us safe.

    You wouldn’t even be possessing your cell phone, tablet, or PC let alone the home you are replying from if it were not for the police. Everything you have would belong to someone else who would take it from you or engage in violent behavior to challenge you for it.

    You can have all the guns you want, but it is one thing to kill rabbits who are unarmed and another to defend your home from people who have no fear of reprisal from law enforcement and who are just as heavily armed as you are. You live in a paint hall laser tag world. Police live in the real world where you don’t simply wipe the paint off your shirt.
     
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  2. wgbgator

    wgbgator Premium Member

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    If baseball players start killing and robbing people on the regular and receive defacto legal immunity for it then I'll change my mind about them too. If you have to do crime to stop crime, that makes them no better than the criminals, and they are simply state empowered criminals, a protection racket, like the mafia.
     
  3. Orange_and_Bluke

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    So perhaps you might want to re examine your thought on the traditional family. It’s probably not so bad after all.
     
  4. wgbgator

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    There is no such thing as "the traditional family," it would be like reexamining my thoughts on dragons or unicorns.
     
  5. Orange_and_Bluke

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    And that where your problem starts.
     
  6. wgbgator

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    My problem of not believing in hokum?
     
  7. Orange_and_Bluke

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    Looks like somebody isn’t so open minded after all. Not a surprise.
     
  8. wgbgator

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    My mind is closed to nonsense, you should try it sometimes
     
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  9. Orange_and_Bluke

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    If my mind was closed to nonsense, you would have been blocked years ago.
     
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  10. wgbgator

    wgbgator Premium Member

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    You did block me though, trying something new? Good for you.
     
  11. Orange_and_Bluke

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    I only blocked you for about a week or so. You’re posts are entertaining and much like watching a crazy tv evangelist, hard to believe it’s real.
     
  12. wgbgator

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    Thanks, your posts are neither entertaining or particularly interesting, but I do like it when you talk about your terrible music taste.
     
  13. Orange_and_Bluke

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  14. wci347

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    That is ridiculous. Without police, there would be no America!
     
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  15. gator_lawyer

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    We had America before we had police. No serious person wants to eliminate police. But we certainly need to rethink how we police, reform the culture of police forces, alter our approaches to better utilize specialists in many of the roles police generally dominate now, meaningfully invest in communities and community resources, and embrace police accountability.
     
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  16. wgbgator

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    Well if you are saying America can only be held together through ruthless state violence, you probably arent wrong. Doesnt bode well for the country or freedom.
     
  17. ridgetop

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    Every civilized country, city state, community etc… has rules and has people to “police” those rules. Some do a better job than others. The more rules, the bigger the “community” and the more diverse the backgrounds the more police one will need and the harder the job.
    Let’s also not act like no one meant “defund” or “abolish” the police. That is a cop out rollback now that those movements have backfired so spectacularly. There were many politicians at various levels absolutely called for the defunding/abolishment of the police. Words matter… right? Now I agree that for some it was just poor branding but for some … the branding was right on point.
     
  18. wci347

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    What I am saying is that the only thing that keeps the goons from smashing your front door down and taking everything you have are the police. The sooner you learn that the greater the appreciation you will have for them. Criminals don't respect you or your neighborhood or the guns you pride yourself on owning. They have bigger guns. And without law enforcement, they would not only violate every sense of privacy that we have, but they would not shed a tear in taking your life to do so.
     
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  19. wci347

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    America was strictly agrarian when there were no police, and even then they had police in the northern states and sheriffs in the southern ones. The fact that there needs to be reform is a separate issue from whether they need to exist. Without them, there would be sheer anarchy, and the civilized way of life in this country would cease to exist. What would stop people from enforcing their own sense of justice if there were not an organized agency that assumes that role for society?
     
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  20. wgbgator

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    Hardly ever see cops where I live and there is very little crime, yet they are all over the places with the most crime. It seems more like police presence correlates with increased crime, not low crime. They certainly aren't standing outside my front door guarding it, and if someone does smash it down, they aren't going to be there to stop it, and they wont do squat to recover my property other than make a report that I will hand to my insurance company.
     
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