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Gators land St. Bonaventure transfer PG Kyle Lofton

Discussion in 'Nuttin but Net' started by Courfeyrac, May 13, 2022.

  1. gatorific

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    Not his first year.
    But in his 5 th, 6th, 7th?! - still a SEC afterthought
     
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  2. tripsright

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    Lol…
    Maybe we can pitch one to GC? Here’s my suggestion:
     

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  3. gatorific

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    Since the turn of the century , we’re far better than average by any standard
     
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  4. gatorific

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    Hell Yeah!!!! ( on the “don’t sell us short thing “)
     
  5. reaves2alvarez

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    The difference is it can’t be a whole lot worse for Georgia. Crean was at the bottom so White can claim, “burning it down for a rebuild,” and will probably get a significant leash. Golden, OTOH, doesn’t have a total rebuild. He has to “fix” mediocrity. I’m pulling for him.

    BTW - this is not a pro or con post of either coach. The two programs are just completely different with completely different expectations, and rightfully so.

    “Wes Chandler was Percy Harvin before Percy Harvin was born.”
     
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  6. reaves2alvarez

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    And therefore should have higher expectations beyond sneaking in to the tourney.

    “Wes Chandler was Percy Harvin before Percy Harvin was born.”
     
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  7. antny1

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    I don't disagree. My comment is more tongue in cheek as some posters here have bashed golden in some bizarre support of Mike White over the Gators.

    I'd also add that while I rooted for White the entire time he was here and hear nothing but good things about him as a person I won't root for him at Georgia. I'm not "rooting against him" mind you but whether or not he chose to leave here he did choose to go to Georgia.
     
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  8. BLING

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    Didn’t they have 6 total wins last year? It’s already burned to the ground lol.

    Obviously a guy gets some slack rebuilding from there, but you’d think with the portal being what it is a .500 roster can be cobbled together. That would be a reasonable goal for a new hire even following that debacle. Get to .500. I doubt UGA stays patient very long unless he at least gets to .500 right away, if not year 1 then year 2. Do that and you assume he’s locked in for 5 years (at which point the bar is raised).

    As UF hasn’t had issues being .500, the goal is a bit higher for Golden. Basically just get back to the tourney and hopefully in the next 3-4 years start making convincing runs at being a good seed rather than the perpetual bubble team.
     
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  9. iam4uf

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    What Kyle Lofton Brings The Gators | GatorCountry.com
     
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  10. bgator85

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    For what exactly? If you are going to take such a minority position, can you at least be a bit more substantive?
     
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  11. INGATORSWETRUST

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    To all those the Gator basketball team is not as good as we think apologists. Here is an article from 2013 speaking of the best college basketball teams since 2000. It uses a formulaic approach based on Tourney success. We are number 4 in the college basketball universe over that time. Pre-Mike White, we were tied with UNC for the most elite 8 appearances during that time. We had 7 years of mediocrity under Mike White in what had been a rise for a top 10 basketball program in the 2000s.
    The 25 Most Successful College Basketball Teams Since 2000, Scored By NCAA Tournament Bracket Rules
     
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  12. tampajack1

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    White appears to have filled his roster at Georgia. He has 4 returnees who scored 45 ppg last season. He has added 8 transfers who averaged a little over 52 ppg at their prior schools last season. He also signed highly-rated incoming freshman KyRon Lindsay. I don’t have a clue as to what positions these guys play. I also don’t think that White can coach a lick. Given all of the foregoing, one would think that Georgia should be improved over last season.
     
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  13. ooogabooga

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    Old article from a woman that didn't do any research except a quick look at 247... Article is from over a month ago.

    White got Equendo back giving him 4 of their main players back. The article also doesn't mention White has added 6 transfers, including Justice Hill and Terry Roberts to go with Equendo, and a 4 star freshman. So he is at 10 or 11 scholarship players. Same as us. Not as good as our players but not sky is falling no one wants to play for White like you're trying to portray.

    More recent article and then White just got a Center transfer from Syracuse.
    Oklahoma State transfer Matthew-Alexander Moncrieffe headed to Georgia

    But I mean good job... really!
     
  14. Zepgator

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    Exactly. You read his posts, then look at his picture and it all makes sense.
     
  15. bullish

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    Nah…..intended to just be a good-natured barb. We all have our takes and I’ve had my share of critics, too. I just seem to completely disagree with a lot of his opinions, for whatever reason.
     
  17. UTGator

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    He landed guards in the transfer portal who have a worst assist to turnover ratio than Appleby and others who have no production. He hasn't learned his lesson.
     
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  18. antny1

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    It's ok. He's been hurt by Gator fans and now actively roots for White and Georgia over golden and the Gators. He's gonna show all of us.....
     
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  19. GatorPlanet

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  20. rserina

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    Definitely an interesting question. We don't know exactly yet, of course, but here is what I have been able to piece together from the various interviews he has done and the articles I have seen:
    1) Spread ball screen action: This is basically the Billy D offense that took over college hoops the last couple of decades. He ran plenty of it at SF and said he would run it here. In these sets, he needs point guards (and preferably wings, too) who can initiate ball screens and fours who can space the floor with their shooting.
    2) Princeton-style motion offense: Most presume this will come in from Hovde, but it's also worth noting that when Hovde was at SF they didn't run a ton of it, apparently. But in these sets we would have five out, with the five initiating the offense from the high post as a passer and everyone else cutting and spotting up off the ball.
    3) Flex offense: This is Bruce Pearl's basic set, which enables you to play with two posts who don't necessarily shoot, but space the floor with their passing or balllhandling, too. I think Reed in particular would have been amazing in this, but spilled milk, crying, and all.
    4) Double post: Gonzaga's look, essentially. Sort of similar to the flex, but I guess with more ball screen action and less motion. Golden said that last year they went to lots of double post looks because it made them less dependent on the three and able to rebound better. And if you consider how hard we went after Broome despite the lack of an ideal fit, then that tells you we really want another post. But that second gus has to be someone who can defend the four and fit in some of our other sets offensively.

    With respect to Osunniyi, the problem is that he doesn't move well enough to defend out in space in man to man. He is a good shotblocker, but very stationary, which means he would struggle with our ball screen coverages and transition game. Likewise, while he is a decent finisher due to his length, he doesn't have the skill level at all to run the spread ball screen, Princeton, or flex stuff. That's my take, at least, on why we didn't push for him--and why we did push for Broome, who is far more athletic and at least somewhat more skilled (though I still have a hard time envisioning how he would fit, TBH).
     
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