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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. Gatorrick22

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    I'm not worried either way, I will never take that "vaccine," so it's does not matter what the truth is...
     
  2. RIP

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    My sister (trauma/ ICU nurse) lost a 42 year old male with zero comorbidities today. He wasn't vaxxed. They are paying nurses an extra $40/hour right now in her hospital to work extra due to surge.
     
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  3. dangolegators

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    Also we are still only at about one fifth the average number of new daily cases as we were at the peak of the previous spike in Jan when very few were vaccinated.
     
  4. BLING

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    So you went from “this is truth” to “it does not matter what the truth is”. Yep. It all checks out.
     
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  5. Gatorrick22

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    Reading in no guarantee that you will understand the words put forth...
     
  6. Tjgators

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    Roughly 75 million Americans are with you. Another 75+ million are kids. Their parents won't let them get jabbed with an experimental vaccine when they have a 99.9% chance of living (many of those parents got the vaccine). Would you have ever thought these vaccines would be so short lived you'd have to get boosters (maybe multiple boosters) and put the mask back on. I think putting the mask back on will take many over the edge. I am happy for the folks like my parents who feel so much more at peace with the vaccine. It should help them if they were to get it, but they will never be immune from getting it. Never. They will never be immune to passing it to others. I truly believe people behind the vaccine have done their best in a short amount of time, but the trials won't be over for a year plus. Fauci is a complete fraud and has done a terrible disservice to our country. The Biden administration is letting thousands of unvaccinated across our border every day with no masks is beyond comprehension. The political class is pushing many Americans over the edge with decisions that only benefit themselves.
     
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  7. Gatorrick22

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    You know what I find disgusting. That the people that INVENTED COVID-19 are not even being investigated for this attempted GENOCIDE...

    Yet people hear ( not you) and in the media are blaming innocent Americans for the outbreak of covid?

    One more thing if you take something they call a vaccine and you're still not protected from it then it's NOT A VACCINE...
     
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  8. RIP

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    This is complete horseshit.
     
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  9. ncargat1

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    Last time I checked, the United States does not have the authority to put GOD on trial for HIS creations.
     
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  10. AzCatFan

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    A sample of 50 people. Not definitive at all! And published late Jan. Which means there was, at the time, need for larger experiments in large scale to prove small scale. Aren't you the same guy who said the 3,000 12-15 year old test subjects wasn't enough to test the vaccine? Now, you're accepting a study with only 50!

    And no answer to the total recovered over 65 that were actually eligible for a vaccine before March. In most areas, a 40 year old COVID recovered patient couldn't get the vaccine until April.
     
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  11. mutz87

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    Who invented sars-cov-2?
     
  12. gator95

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    Seriously, do you not remember anything from last year?

    Long-lasting COVID immunity gives real hope for the long-term protection of vaccines

    Study of Healthcare Workers Shows COVID-19 Immunity Lasts Many Months

    Natural immunity to COVID-19 may be long-lasting

    Two Studies Show COVID-19 Antibodies Persist for Months

    I can keep going if you want. You keep trying to make excuses…. The data was from all over the world showing long lasting immunity. You make no sense talking about a 40 year old covid patient. And if you can’t tell the difference between testing an experimental drug on a child to researching a blood sample of a covid+ person then you really are not worth my time to discuss anything further with.
     
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  13. Tjgators

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    It's not. Please share your thoughts where the virus came from. Do you not believe it came from a lab in China?
     
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  14. Gatorrick22

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    LMFAO! So you think their is some sort of bat virus that simply jumped into the human system? I guess ignorance is bliss...if the people are really just sheeple.

    It was invented in the Wuhan lab... GlaxcoSmithKline is part owner of that said lab, and now Pfizer is involved in partnership too.

    Why on Earth would we need a lab in China that "studies" more like invents deadly viruses? In communist China, where all these seasonal flues seem to originate from? Aren't you even a little bit interested as to why all these killer "flues" come out of China?

    At what point in your critical thinking life is that light going to come on and say to yourself..."something is wrong ."
     
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    It's even worse than that. The Congress voted NOT to investigate then origin of the Wuhan virus... Can you even believe that? What are these clowns covering up?
     
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    I do not believe that it came from a lab in China. It is entirely possible that their was a bat betacoronavirus that was more than 96% genetically similar to SARS-CoV-2 in the Wuhan Lab, but not SARS-CoV-2. I go out on a limb about the betacoronavirus since the Chinese have already admitted to that much.

    If nothing else is known it is this. In genetic viral manipulation and synthesis, there are only a handful of basic viral backbones that all manipulated sequences are built upon. They readily recognized right down to the computer model used to generate that sequence. SARS-CoV-2 does not conform to any know model or synthetic starting point for manipulated viruses.

    Over a year later and no one has been able to refute the "Proximal Origins" paper from Anderson et al.
     
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  17. RIP

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    I was addressing the bolded part.
     
  18. BLING

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    Pelosi!!!!
     
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  19. AzCatFan

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    First 2 links are small scale, under 100 participants. Fourth link is anecdotal, and not scientific. Only the third link has over 1000. Dealing with healthcare workers. And not a controlled study that can be replicated.

    All of which would require further research. A bunch of small studies and one with uncontrolled variables. The fact they all showed similar results is promising, but not definitive. Not my fault you don't understand how scientific research and studies work.

    And still no answer how many eligible 65+ who recovered who may have "stolen" a vaccine from the tens of thousands who needlessly died because they got a shot before someone else.
     
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  20. slightlyskeptic

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    It's hardly settled science. I find the coincidence too much to believe. But we'll never really know since the Chinese government is anything but trustworthy.

    Here's a good article that provides points of view from both sides written by a guy who's hardly a right wing Trump supporter.

    How I Learned to Stop Worrying And Love the Lab-Leak Theory*