Cheney becoming GOP de facto leader

What action? Kissing Trump’s butt or trying to secretly shed him from the party?

 

This is the QOP. Conservative voters with a soul and a conscience need to acknowledge that there is no GOP anymore. There is no Republican Party that represents any of their ideals anymore.

There is only the QOP, a party of grift, conspiracy theory, juvenile sneering, and inhuman cruelty and nastiness.

 

Only the best people

 

False equivalence. Any Democrat who claimed that Trump only won because Russia changed vote tallies was in the wrong, but I don't recall Democratic leaders doing that. Creating distrust in the results is something that can kill our country. And you're also ignoring a very significant distinction. Russia actually did interfere on Trump's behalf. But again, the message there wasn't that "you can't trust vote totals because of Russian fraud." That's far more pernicious.

I don't care if they talk about Trump or not. Not spreading the big lie is what I care about.

 

And this sentiment is the exact problem in politics... the notion that there needs to be a carte blanche opposition to the other party, regardless of what the policy is. Republicans don’t need to oppose the Biden Administration, and Democrats didn’t need to oppose the Trump Administration. They need to support policies they agree with and oppose policies they disagree with on merit... not based on who’s idea it was.

 

THIS!!!

 

Because it’s a criminal RICO organization and now Trump effectively controls the $$$ (which he sees as his). Drain the Swamp! lmao.

 

Exactly. Shouldn't the focus be on helping the American people, or at least working on their behalf? This isn't sports. We shouldn't treat it as offense and defense.

 

No not at all. She is more conservative than the woman that will replace her and many people claiming fealty to Trump.

I'm not a fan of hers at all, but I will give her credit as one of the few who act based upon what is right vs placating their political base.

 

After a Presidential election loss, the losing party usually does a post-election post-mortem. Why did they lose? Was it the candidate? The message? Something in the platform? And what combination of these factors caused the loss, and what can be done to not have the past repeat itself. None of that happened this last cycle because Trump refused to concede and convinced not only himself, but millions that the election was stolen from him! This, despite zero evidence that this actually happened.

One would hope months later after the election and failed coup attempt at the Capitol, that Rs would be ready to put Trump behind them, and do a true election post-mortem. But that's not happening at all. There's a sham recount in Arizona, Graham saying the Rs still need Trump to move forward, and the removal of someone from her position within the R party because she dares speak the truth about the election!

It's the R's themselves that are keeping Trump in the news cycle. Instead of telling everyone the election is over, Trump lost, and it's time to move on, they indulging the man-child that is Trump, repeating his big lie that he won, and now undercutting R politicians that dare not kneel down to Trump and embrace his lie.

If you want the R's to move on from Trump, you should embrace what Cheney is saying, not the other way around. She's the one who is saying Trump lost. If you continue to allow the lie to fester that Trump won, the R's will never move on.

 

The message is clear: shut up and get in line to kiss dear leader's ass or get the hell out. Silence is complicity as the big lie is perpetuated. They are showing us who they are.

 

Secretly trying to get rid of him.

 

It isn’t over because Trump still controls the party, which is exactly the problem.
Romney got censured in Utah for opposing Trump last week. Arizona is running a complete circus of recount because of Trump’s baseless claims of fraud. McConnell still won’t truly condemn Trump, though he actually came close during impeachment. Cheney is the only one with the guts to point it out. and as far as it being five months later, the capitol riot will be in history books for forever as a stain on our democracy, five months is a drop in the bucket as far as it goes. The Warren commission took years, should we have quit that after five months? The continued assaults on voting by republicans nationally is absolutely current, ask Florida, Georgia etc.
the idea that hey “it’s over, let’s move on” is crazy. It was and still is an assault on the very underpinnings of our democracy.