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Dominion to Sue Fox, Anchors, Giuliani, Powell, etc

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  1. Emmitto

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  2. G8trGr8t

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    I think all but Trump will. Trump is not psychologically capable of making a sincere admission of guilt or being wrong about something
     
  3. G8trGr8t

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  4. VAg8r1

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    Probably both, a retraction and money damages.
     
  5. VAg8r1

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    Just saw an interview on CNN with Tom Clare, the lead attorney representing Dominion. Although he wasn't specific regarding future defendants he clearly implied that Rudy Giuliani wasn't the last defendant and did say that no one can be ruled out. My guess is that Lin Wood is probably next followed by Fox and its infotainment stars. Although I do not have any idea whether it will happen or not I would really love to see Trump put in a position in which he would have to deliver a public retraction.
     
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  6. studegator

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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/01/26/giuliani-conspiracy-influencer-lawsuit/?utm_content=position6;readinghistory&utm_campaign=wp_for_you&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_personalizedforyou

    Giuliani, the lawsuit alleges, knowingly spread falsehoods about the company to bolster Trump’s failing attempts to overturn the reality of his election loss. But Giuliani had another incentive for doing so, the lawyers wrote: He “cashed in by hosting a podcast where he exploited election falsehoods to market gold coins, supplements, cigars, and protection from ‘cyber thieves.’ ”
    The lawsuit helps cast a spotlight on why so much viral disinformation rockets across the Web: Purveyors of falsehoods are often financially rewarded as the audiences for their claims grow. Premium subscriptions, merchandise sales and advertisement revenue form the backbone of the online-influencer economy — and if the audience is buying it, the creators make money, regardless of the facts.

    The lawsuit frames Giuliani not as an ideological crusader but as a shrewd marketer eager to monetize his growing fan base, using the kinds of social-media-influencer techniques popular across YouTube, Facebook and Instagram, including infomercial-style endorsements and promotional discount codes.
     
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  7. rivergator

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    Rudy Giuliani says one of his defenses defense against the Dominion lawsuit is that "I'm a reporter"
     
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  8. VAg8r1

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    Rudy's defense is as frivolous as the allegations he made in the lawsuits in which he represented the Trump campaign. And by the way Sullivan doesn't provide complete immunity although it does raise the bar for a plaintiff in a defamation lawsuit against a media outlet. In addition to proving that a statement is untrue the plaintiff must also prove that the statement was made with "actual malice", meaning that the defendant either knew the statement was false or recklessly disregarded whether or not it was true. Seems that Rudy almost certainly knew that it was untrue or recklessly disregarded whether it was true or not. It's just a matter of time before Rudy enters into a settlement in which he agrees to publicly retract his allegations against Dominion and hopefully he will be forced to do so in both writing and through a video presentation. Additionally, not insignificant monetary damages are probably also in the cards.
     
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  9. oragator1

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  10. tampagtr

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    It is almost never wise to pursue a defamation claim for all kinds of reasons but Dominion had no choice in this case if they wanted to survive as a company
     
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    Their opening paragraph, The earth is round, 2+3=4 and Biden won.... ;)
     
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  13. WarDamnGator

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    Trump himself is noticeably absent from these suits. He is a straight up master at setting up people to take the fall for him.

    I bet a review of Trump's statements on this, at least the public ones, would be vague enough to not contain any specific accusations against Dominion and Smartmatic, like "Someone needs to looking this, how'd I go from winning on election night to losing the next day. It's rigged!" ... but behind the scenes I'm sure he was egging on Rudy and rest to go public with the QAnon/4Chan troll's conspiracy theories.
     
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  14. GatorNorth

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    Powell also said she had proof that GA Gov. Kemp's family was compensated for his agreement to use Dominion machines.

    Yet it will be a cold day day in hell before that feckless man objects to it much less sues for defamation.
     
  15. mdgator05

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    Largely true. The rambling 40-something minute rant about the election would probably be their best bet, but it isn't a great one. He put it mostly into the language of his job, where he called the firm "suspect," which is tough to prove false because it basically means nothing, and then said that we should move to entirely paper ballots, a policy position because of that. The one thing that could get him into trouble in what I saw would be the line about how it could switch your votes, but he definitely kept it far more vague than his surrogates.
     
  16. WC53

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    I will buy popcorn if they live stream the depositions #Epic
     
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    I'd even watch on PPV if they made it available.
     
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    To that point, what in the hell has happened to Maria Bartiromo? At one point, she was one of the most highly regarded and well respected women in the financial news field and a top contributor to Business Week magazine. I don't know what Fox pays here, but beyond the money, her career has completely gone off the rails.
     
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  19. WC53

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    Maria and Lou must have shared a water fountain