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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. gatordavisl

    gatordavisl VIP Member

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    For "We are the Boys" we can hold O&B streamers linked to each individual. Then burn the streamers and use hand sanitizer.
     
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  2. mdgator05

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    Where did it estimate that in the paper? I see two mitigation thresholds (0.2 deaths per 100,000 population per week and 1.6 deaths per 100,000 population per week). I didn't see either broken down by country but saw them per continent, and both had deaths far below 1 Million for all of North America (one at 500K the other at 92K). Could you point me to this 1 million point estimate in the paper (i.e. what page did you find that)?
     
  3. dangolegators

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    More unnecessary insults and you still haven't answered the actual question.
     
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  4. duchen

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    Don’t hold your breath.
     
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  5. dangolegators

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    The 2+ million deaths projection was for business-as-usual no social distancing whatsoever. But of course we've taken massive social distancing measures. And still we have 100k dead in a little over 2 months. Based on that, the 2+ million projection seems a pretty realistic worst case scenario for a US that did not take any measures (either at the government level or the personal level) whatsoever.
     
  6. gatordavisl

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    I don't mean to speak for Mutz, but from my perspective I'd like to see more vigilance and consideration for the health of others from Americans. This means:
    I've lost faith in the American public regarding its ability to handle this virus. We're too independent, stubborn, and self-centered to know how to mitigate risks. We're not alone, as places like Brazil appear to be failing terribly also. In places like Taiwan, though, they are TOTALLY BACK TO NORMAL - schools are not closed. People are shopping; attending sporting events, etc. They have mitigated risks quite effectively, where we have not.
     
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  7. buckeyegator

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    like i said, it was there, then 10 minutes later it was gone.
     
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  8. buckeyegator

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    go to the yahoo front page, enter oxford vaccine in the search engine, the article link pops up.
     
  9. slayerxing

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    Still waiting for that news source that gives out all this brilliant insight...
     
  10. philnotfil

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  11. buckeyegator

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  12. OklahomaGator

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    You really should be doing that yourself, I know you can do it!!
     
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  13. philnotfil

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    Yet you weren't able to manage it?
     
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  14. G8trGr8t

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    70k antibody tests. Spain. Average of 5% infection rate. Mortality rate between 1.0 and 1.2%

    330M (0.7) (.011) = 2.541 M. This says nothing of long term morbidity issues

    How do we stop that from happening without a vaccine and no social distancing?

    Antibody study shows just 5% of Spaniards have contracted the coronavirus
    The Spanish overall figure of 5% is in line with studies in other European countries that showed a prevalence of 4% to 5%, far below the rate that would provide the population with so-called herd immunity, and which experts place at 60% at the very least.

    If the percentage of infected people who eventually die is around 1.1%, as the study suggests, the cost in human lives of herd immunity would be between 200,000 and 300,000, making the method unacceptable. Epidemiologists consulted by this newspaper said that social distancing measures must remain in place until a vaccine becomes available.
     
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  15. channingcrowderhungry

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    I'm pretty shocked by that 5% number. But then you see some regions are at 14% and it makes you really wonder if that second wave isn't lurking in a lot of places. Man.
     
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  16. LLCoolJ94

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    See paper in link

     
  17. LLCoolJ94

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    Pages 7 & 8.
     
  18. mutz87

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    How did I misrepresent what you wrote?

    My solution for some of the people is quit being selfish, ignant jerks. America isn't only about individualism, but about "We the people." That is, to coming together. Indeed, the idea of 2a rights, e.g., was about security of the country, hence the militia. This goes beyond simple suggesting but is explicit about the idea of people working together to protect the community. Somehow, a not insignificant number of American *freedom fighters* have got it all twisted around so that wearing a mask is now tyranny.
     
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  19. LLCoolJ94

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    Namely:

    You equated what is a very moderated statement to "bang up job." Nowhere did I even intimate that sentiment. In fact, I didn't even give an opinion of my own.

    I have no idea what is the rest about which you are rambling. Not only did I not bring up the Bill of Rights, but also I said nothing about mask wearing.
     
  20. duchen

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