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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. gatordavisl

    gatordavisl VIP Member

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    What happened at the Italian soccer match?
    The Soccer Match that Kicked Off Italy’s Coronavirus Disaster

    Edit: I'm late to the show (as usual). Couple of others already brought this up.
     
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  2. gators81

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    You do know that people have recovered from the virus already and doctors have checked them out, right? Or did you miss that since you don’t watch the news...
     
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  3. oragator1

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    Overreaction by me? Genuinely interested in opinions.

    found a good deal on tires today, so brought it in to get 4 new ones. Their website said social distancing, curbside work etc.
    guy processes my incoming order and then asks me for the keys. I asked simply to let me drive into the bay, that would mean no one would be in my car or touching my keys. He said they couldn’t for liability reasons but that they put down plastic and wear gloves. He then claimed that he had it in February and would drive it in himself (I looked later when I got home because that didn’t sound right, first confirmed case wasn’t til March in my county). But a car being an enclosed space where I spend a fair amount of time in, which would be nearly impossible to get it out of if it got in there, and them not working with me, I cancelled the job. Their bays were full so obviously others didn’t care. But to me it was s much being tone deaf as anything. Just didn’t sit right.
     
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  4. gator95

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    You keep staying inside, nice and safe. Good luck to you. Won’t keep arguing with someone who isn’t making a tangible argument.
     
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  6. gators81

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    There it is, old reliable. When all else fails there’s the “stay inside, I can’t argue with you anymore”. C’mon man, that’s the best ya got? FYI, I’m an essential worker, I’ve left my house everyday since this thing started, you’ve got the wrong guy. Goes well with all of your wrong information and wrong hot takes. Have a good day.
     
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  7. gator95

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    More good news.
     

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  8. FutureGatorMom

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    I have to say this, the way they cram you into the Swamp (there were times I sat sideways), I wouldn't go unless they found a way to spread groups who come together out. I've smelled enough alcohol on the guy's breath behind me enough to know he was too close. I just hope they can in crowd noise, band music and they still do the Petty tribute / We are the Boys at the end of the 3rd quarter
     
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  9. buckeyegator

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    scientists at oxford in england say they have only a 50% chance of developing a vaccine, the reason, cases are falling to fast in the UK, just like the british to muck things up by getting well to quick
     
  10. dangolegators

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    Yeah you're still not answering the question. Just more unnecessary insults. If your mother lived in a house, would you take your kids to visit her in person, not waving from outside a window?
     
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  11. RIP

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    Link?
     
  12. gator95

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    man, you struggle to keep up. I explained it before. Go back and read it. Not going to repeat myself for you.
     
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  13. mutz87

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    Good point.

    @RealGatorFan makes some fair points, however, I'd put it like this, he's overly deterministic and certain in his reading about what KCDC and studies have found. The issue is more nuanced, not so black and white. I am also unsure of where he gets his 95% of cases were transmitted indoors.
     
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  14. mutz87

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    I suppose that is one way of thinking we've done a bang up job. But maybe the problem isn't only govt, but the people...or some of them anyway
     
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  15. mdgator05

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    So many problems in two sentences.

    1. The top end of a projection range should not be handled as a point estimate. That model had a range of potential outcomes and utilizing the top estimate listed as a point estimate is not wise nor accurate.
    2. That model was without any mitigation built into the model and showed the death total as we reached herd immunity.
    3. You hate it when other people bring up that model to show that it might not have been off in its context, but you use it out of context when it advances a preferred narrative.
     
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  16. buckeyegator

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    saw it on yahoo front page, not there now.
     
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  18. LLCoolJ94

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    Context is a problem for you, I see. You ignore that I used phrases, such as:

    - I'm not sure
    - May seem

    You are right that the 2.2M people is calculated on the basis of no mitigation. However, the very same model estimates that the US would experience 1M deaths with extreme intervention, such as "enhanced social distancing." So we could say that puts at 10% of the estimated number.

    https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-college/medicine/mrc-gida/2020-03-26-COVID19-Report-12.pdf

    You are also right that I don't like the model, but that's what we have to go from.
     
  19. LLCoolJ94

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    Do not misrepresent what I actually wrote with your interpretation of it.

    What are your solutions for "some of the people" (your words)?
     
  20. RIP

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    Posting links to these kinds of things would be helpful in the future. Not dogging on you just giving some advice.