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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. gatorstevelp

    gatorstevelp Premium Member

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    Exactly details the issue with politics with some posters on this thread. Does it really matter? I truly believe there are some on here that truly hope we have 3 million die from this just so they can blame someone. Or try to any ways. Maybe try being part of the solution may be a better alternative. I know of a go fund me page that I have contributed to that are providing masks to the front lines. I'm sure there are other worthy causes. Just a thought.
     
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  2. RIP

    RIP I like touchdowns Premium Member

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    Globalist dead cat bounce draconian scum!
     
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  3. 96Gatorcise

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    Bipartisan majority of Americans reject Trump idea to reopen by Easter: Reuters/Ipsos poll

    The poll showed that most Americans do not want that.

    In the survey, 81% said the country should continue social distancing initiatives, including ‘shelter at home’ orders, “despite the impact to the economy.” This includes 89% of Democrats and 70% of Republicans.


    Only 19% said they would like to end social distancing as soon as possible “to get the economy going again,” including 11% of Democrats and 30% of Republicans.
     
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  4. duchen

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    People getting sicker earlier means a lower RO rate. And, there is always a flat line in the early stages before the growth is exponential.
     
  5. gator_lawyer

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    Does it matter to me? No. But some have erroneously claimed that only blue states are getting hit.
     
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  6. duchen

    duchen VIP Member

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    Heard interviews with doctors today.
     
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  7. gatorstevelp

    gatorstevelp Premium Member

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    Where did I say at the cost of lost lives? I made a statement that it would be a good thing if more people had it than what was known for herd immunity. Some of you have your own narrative. I need to have one more drink so I can respond to more nonsense and get my ass banned off of here.
     
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  8. exiledgator

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    Lol.

    It was hundreds? of pages of circular hilarity. The government is the mafia, introduction of violence, etc. Good times.
     
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  9. gator_lawyer

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    I'm sad I missed it.
     
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  10. duchen

    duchen VIP Member

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    That is not what he is saying.
     
  11. gatorstevelp

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    I cannot imagine who that might be LOL
     
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  12. duchen

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    Actually, the length of the disease is 2 to 3 weeks if serious or not. The severity varies widely, which makes sense. It is a new disease so selection has not eliminated the stronger strains.

    That said, the Oxford conclusion of earlier spread lowers the RO rate. In this country, we would see examples of people with unexplained symptoms and some people getting mysterious pneumonias-- but not the surge.

    But, the exponential rate is the exponential rate. So, a lot more serious cases and surge capacity issues regardless.

    People like me who had a mystery illness with matching symptoms should have antibody tests to get accurate information.

    We did not prepare-- so we are living in stupid.
     
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  13. 96Gatorcise

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    Coronavirus thoughts by 96Gatorcise

    Between the half and half and beer, I'm going to be a lactating keg by April 12th!!!!
     
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  14. duchen

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    That is not what he is saying. And, there is a strong academic basis for his view. Modeling at Oxford University.

    if right, it would be good news.

    but without anti-body testing, we will not know.

    New Oxford study suggests millions of people may have already built up coronavirus immunity

    The Oxford research suggests the pandemic is in a later stage than previously thought and estimates the virus has already infected at least millions of people worldwide. In the United Kingdom, which the study focuses on, half the population would have already been infected. If accurate, that would mean transmission began around mid-January and the vast majority of cases presented mild or no symptoms.

    The head of the study, professor Sunetra Gupta, an Oxford theoretical epidemiologist, said she still supports the U.K.'s decision to shut down the country to suppress the virus even if her research winds up being proven correct. But she also doesn't appear to be a big fan of the work done by the Imperial College team. "I am surprised that there has been such unqualified acceptance of the Imperial model," she said.

    Coronavirus UK: Half population could be infected, says expert | Daily Mail Online

    The new model from Oxford University suggests the virus was circulating in the UK by mid-January, around two weeks before the first reported case and a month before the first reported death.

    This means it could have had enough time to have spread widely, with many Britons acquiring immunity. Sunetra Gupta, a professor of theoretical epidemiology who led the study, said testing was needed to assess the theory.

    ‘We need immediately to begin large-scale serological surveys – antibody testing – to assess what stage of the epidemic we are in now,’ she said.

    But the true size of the outbreak is being hidden because of the Government's controversial decision to only test patients in hospital. The true size of the outbreak is likely to be closer to the 400,000 mark.

    The Oxford university research offers a contrasting view on the disease to the study that is informing government policy. It was carried out by experts at Imperial College London.

    ‘I am surprised that there has been such unqualified acceptance of the Imperial model,’ Professor Gupta told the Financial Times.

    The Imperial study has led to the Government imposing the extraordinary shutdown on the basis that, without such rules, the disease could claim up to 250,000 lives.
     
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  15. mutz87

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    Sorry didn't mean to suggest you were saying it. I was riffing off of the idea of reaching herd immunity quickly, since it would come at a human cost to lives, one that some appear a bit eager about, i.e. Brit Hume, Glen Beck, and Dan Patrick come to mind.
     
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  16. duchen

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  17. g8rjd

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    A reporter just asked Trump, “Can everyone who needs a ventilator get one?”

    Trump: “Look, don’t be a cutie-pie, okay?”

    A reporter asking a reasonable question: In the wealthiest nation on Earth, will a person die due to a lack of supply of proper medical equipment? And that’s how the President replies.

    Unbelievable.
     
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  18. duchen

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    He is saying what I posted on post 4154. hopeful.
     
  19. sierragator

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    Actually I don't, but too many others do. Thanks for asking
     
  20. 96Gatorcise

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    Cornavirus thoughts by 96Gatorcise

    aged 13 yr old Shih Tzu

    Grilled or deep fried??

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