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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. mdgator05

    mdgator05 Premium Member

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    No, I just chopped it down to dividing by how many millions. So basically, we have 4.5 deaths per million.
     
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  2. docspor

    docspor GC Hall of Fame

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    Got it. Thanks.
     
  3. gator_fever

    gator_fever GC Legend

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    Western Europe....France, Spain , Netherlands, Italy, Switzerland etc....probably a wiki page with them listed.
     
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  4. mdgator05

    mdgator05 Premium Member

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    So we aren't Western? Because we aren't in Western Europe.
     
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  5. gator_fever

    gator_fever GC Legend

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    I tell you what - average all the Western European countries as a whole with that by their total combined populations and compare them to the US results and get back with me.
     
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  6. mdgator05

    mdgator05 Premium Member

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    Quite the shift in goalposts from us being one of the lowest.
     
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  7. oragator1

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  8. gator_fever

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    Go ahead and add Canada if you want to Western Europe. You just dont like what the numbers will show.
     
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  9. mdgator05

    mdgator05 Premium Member

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    Your claim: we have one of the lowest deaths to population ratios in the West.

    I pointed out quite a few countries with lower rates to show it wasn't true.

    That was factually inaccurate. I thought you would take your medicine when you were wrong. Oh well.
     
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  10. GatorNorth

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    Italy just reported its single day high for number of deaths.
     
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  11. gator95

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  12. gator_fever

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    Tell you what list all the modern western countries in the northern hemisphere temperate zone like us and look how the US adds up - you are listing countries doing barely better than the US and avoiding the ones the US is miles ahead of which make up most of those.

    Also explain why people are nearly 3 times as likely to have passed from this stuff under Democrat Governors than Republican Governors in the US based on the US population breakdown despite all their draconian lockdowns in those states.
     
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  13. mdgator05

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    You figure that moving the goalposts even more by adding more conditions on your initially wrong statement is going to make it less wrong? Still not taking your medicine I see.
     
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  14. gator_fever

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    Nope that is a 100% true comparison as those countries are in the same spot for flu season activity etc. All you can do is try and find a few places where most are doing just a little better in many cases. The rest of the countries in what I described if you add them up together are getting destroyed by the US in doing good against this stuff in the stat that matters.
     
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  15. 96Gatorcise

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    The argument would be, the US is weeks behind many other countries. Cuomo has stated NY's peak won't come for several more weeks and hospitals are already pushing capacity. Once capacity hits, deaths will spike because there just won't be enough people, space or equipment to care for everyone who needs it. That is what is being seen in Italy, Spain etc....
    I believe we will also see it in less developed countries whose resources are nowhere near ours.
     
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  16. mdgator05

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    The entirety of Europe is in the temperate zone. And I found more than a few. 12 in fact. And I could give you some more if you would like. You didn't claim that we weren't the highest (which would be true). You claimed we were one of the lowest. That is not true. Stop trying to dodge responsibility for saying something false, especially given that you are continuing to make claims without a basis and claiming that you will stand up and take the hit if they are shown to be false. Stand up and prove that you will take responsibility for making an empirically false claim or fail to do so because you can't take that you were obviously wrong.
     
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  17. rivergator

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    Another one ...
    Nashville woman, 21, regrets coronavirus video after falling ill herself: report
     
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  18. gator95

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    We aren't weeks behind a lot of countries. Some we are even with. And our rate is holding up well(wish it was zero). Not everything is doom and gloom.
     
  19. rivergator

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    You still have a Pete's glass? Cool.
     
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  20. oragator1

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    Just went past 100k cases in the US.
     
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