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Kavanaugh Hearing

Discussion in 'GC Hall of Fame' started by ursidman, Sep 4, 2018.

  1. citygator

    citygator VIP Member

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    How about asking it this way... Has anyone forgotten assaulting someone even after 30 years?
     
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  2. gator_lawyer

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    BS. Even if the woman who was named as being at the party comes forward and backs Blasey, we'll still have people claiming that she can't be trusted. She's just Blasey's friend. Judge and Smyth contradicted her. Yadda yadda yadda.
     
  3. gator_lawyer

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    I'm sure if she gives a time and place, the Republicans will make sure to allow Kavanaugh to respond if he has an alibi.
     
  4. 96Gatorcise

    96Gatorcise GC Hall of Fame

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    Its not her show, it belongs to the senate. They set the terms not her or her lawyers.

    either show up and say what you want to say or don't. period.
     
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  5. GatorBen

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    Hint: She knows they’re crazy demands and doesn’t actually expect them to be met. She’s trying to make unreasonable enough demands that the Committee will tell her no and she can go around howling about how they wouldn’t let her be heard without ever having to actually testify.
     
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  6. steveGator52

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    Do you think Democratic senators would let him off with such bland answers? They will ask where he was at, was he drinking, etc. If he says I can’t recall, then the assumption will be that he is guilty since he can’t remember. If he provides more detail, then he is giving ammunition to her.
     
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  7. steveGator52

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    You are assuming just the woman would back her up. If it really happened, one of the guys would back her up too. All they would need to say is that they saw him go with her into a room with her.

    Do you think so little of them that they would lie to cover up a sexual assault they weren’t involved in?
     
  8. gator_lawyer

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    They're really not crazy demands. The only one that even approaches unreasonable is asking that he testify first. How about we treat it like closing arguments in a trial? She testifies. He testifies. She gets her rebuttal.

    There's no date. How can they ask him where he was?

    It is her show. They need her for legitimacy. I know you don't believe her, but all of the people who think there's any chance that she's telling the truth understand how difficult it is for a victim of sexual assault to relive that trauma. Accordingly, they act like human beings with empathy and respect that she can make some reasonable demands.
     
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  9. gator_lawyer

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    I'm not assuming anything. Read my post. But you proved my point. Thank you.
     
  10. steveGator52

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    So since he said he didn’t do it, then you believe him, right? Since he wouldn’t have forgotten doing that. Or maybe their isn’t enough information to make a decision one way or another.

    And the timing of this is really fortuitous for the Democrats in possibly preventing a conservative SC judge from being appointed.
     
  11. gator_lawyer

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    They're not preventing a conservative justice from being appointed. They're preventing Kavanaugh from being appointed. There's still plenty of time to appoint a conservative justice if Kavanaugh doesn't pan out.
     
  12. steveGator52

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    You said “even if”. That is an assumption. I then also made an assumption that if the woman backed up her story, the other two men not involved would have too. So if you want to assume, then I can too.
     
  13. GatorBen

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    The only way she testifies is an accident.

    This is all political theater at this point. She did the whole “I would love to testify” thing and the committee called her bluff, Democrats realized they were going to look like idiots if she said she wanted to testify and then refused to show up, so now they’re trying to make demands that the Committee will balk at so they can reframe it as “she really, really wanted to testify, but the mean old Republicans were so unreasonable that she couldn’t.”
     
  14. steveGator52

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    Realllyyyy. You don’t think the Democrats will bitch and moan in an attempt to stretch it out if they win back the house and/or senate. And make the argument that there is no hurry to fill the seat until 2019 since the court has been with 8 justices before.
     
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  15. gator_lawyer

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    Yeah, Democrats bitching and moaning really stops the Republicans from doing what they want.

    You proved me right. Thank you for that. "Even if" isn't an assumption. It's a hypothetical. You answered my hypothetical by saying you still wouldn't believe it because the two men didn't support her account. That is exactly what I said would happen.
     
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  16. VAg8r1

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    If the Democrats win back the Senate Mitch McConnell will find out that Karma is a bitch. Unless Trump starts nominating relative moderates we may not see the confirmation of a judicial nominee until 2021.
     
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    Again, blame her but not him? A 17 year old plies a 15 year old with alcohol and that doesn’t deserve a mention?
     
  18. 96Gatorcise

    96Gatorcise GC Hall of Fame

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    Why does it deserve mentioning, She was there drinking voluntary. She went to gathering and others those summers in the 80's according to he own story voluntary.
     
  19. gator_lawyer

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    She went drinking with three boys and another girl. In my world, drinking with some boys doesn't give them license to try and rape her.
     
  20. 96Gatorcise

    96Gatorcise GC Hall of Fame

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    never said it did.