Trask looking good

Yes, and while I'm a huge Tebow fan, its hard to fault trading out Tebow for Peyton Manning.
Any NFL GM would have done the same.

 

Tebow love aside, that’s easy to say after the fact. If you remembered Manning having multiple surgeries to fix his neck (which is why his time in Indy was done) would you still say the same thing? At the time, I’m not sure it’s as easy of a decision. Honestly I think Elway brought him in hoping he’d fail thus boosting his own love for his own name as being the greatest. I know that’s a conspiracy theory but the glove fits

 

Elway was always against Tebow in Denver - I think he was jealous of Tebow's enormous popularity - and he repeated insane late game heroics.

 

I agree. Whenever I say that, people immediately point to him bringing in Peyton. But he didn’t bring in a healthy Peyton, he brought in a broken dude that still got the job done somehow. I think that surprised Elway.

 

Plus - he got rid of Tebow before the Manning deal was done. Manning was considering a lot of options and could have easily went in a different direction.

 

Kyle Orton was just a superior QB lol. He sucked on the Bears, he sucked in Denver.

 

John Elway is to the Denver Broncos what Tim Tebow is to the Florida Gators: god-tier status, legacy cemented for eternity. Tim Tebow would never have any reason to be jealous of any Gators QB after him, just like John Elway had zero reason to be jealous of Tebow. As a newly appointed Broncos GM in January 2011 who had to evaluate the teams QB position, Elway simply didn’t think Tebow was the long-term solution. He had no attachment or loyalty to Tebow since he didn’t draft him, and he wanted his own handpicked QB to take over. The QB he handpicked ended up taking the Broncos to 2 Super Bowls, and winning one. Elway did his job as GM.

 

Making 2nd and five a consistent down is underated. Some you just have to make the small plays and dont screw it up.

 

Pull my finger

 

He to me is a great example of a "high floor, lowish ceiling" player. TB may not need one of those players as a backup QB, but I expect there are teams who relish one. Just have to be patient and let things play out.

 

Well, since it is still in the off-season (sort of), we can "go there" because there isn't much else to do.

Too many folks don't understand the NFL and the setup they have. They have a pretty hard salary cap that can be "tweaked" if need be, but the short-term gain will cause long-term pain, depending upon how much of their future they want to mortgage. As a result, they can play the long game or they can play the short game. The long game invests in young players who can grow with the rest of the team whereas the short game usually involves a "win now" mentality in order to win the ultimate prize - a SB appearance and hopefully win. Denver with Manning obviously saw the opportunity to "go for it" and they did. Nothing to damn them for at all.

Now to the long game, philosophically speaking. We need to look at two basic ideas. The first is, what are the pieces you need to acquire and develop into a contender and what are pieces that you can sort of acquire as veterans as stopgaps. And the second is, the league is a copycat one, which means the coaches usually want to take the path of least resistance rather that boldly pursue a noble or novel path. And that includes both the qualities of the players as well as the plays being called. Why? because the league isn't so much about winning it all as it is about getting paid a nice amount of money for your efforts. Do it well enough, make good/great money. Do it questionably and you are put on the outside. It is what it is.

Now to our favorite player/topic: Tebow. Let me get to the executive summary first and proclaim that Tebow could have been an NFL star...in another era. What got missed by most of us is that his skills were not in line with what is the conventional (read that which makes the coaches and GMs money) wisdom of today, based on the rules of today. I recall this great take from a veteran reporter who said that there is nothing wrong with running the spread option in the NFL...as long as you realize you need THREE Tebows on your team because they ARE going to get injured and so they need to be prepared to go in and nothing changes. Again, the "conventional" wisdom is, if your offense isn't prepared to score at least 20 points in a game, you probably won't win enough games to win the whole enchilada (The Ravens winning with Dilfer is an outlier). And so, if your QB isn't prepared to throw excellently when he HAS to, he is limited.

Regarding Trask, he isn't Tebow, he is a throwing QB who won't "wow" anyone, but he can do what is conventional. Tebow just wasn't prepared or skilled enough for a HC, OC, or GM to bet THEIR livelihoods on him. It is what it is.