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US Air Force to deny retirement pay to transgender service members being separated from the service

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by Shade45, Aug 8, 2025 at 1:14 PM.

  1. Shade45

    Shade45 Premium Member

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  2. pogba

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    Wait are you telling me the “party of hate” is coming out with more discriminatory policies?
     
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  3. tilly

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    I mean, they should get what they legally earned. My beliefs about them shouldn't change that fact
     
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  4. DawgFanFromAlabam

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    Just wrong. Period.
     
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  5. Emmitto

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    Ha, did their duty for all those years, then what changed to make them suddenly unworthy of just general respect and the expectation that a contract is binding?
     
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  6. okeechobee

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    Ok, Hamas.
     
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  7. BLING

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    Really, any military member or career govt employee should probably watch this.

    It’s rule of law type stuff, doesn’t really matter if they are trans. The trans issue is how they get certain folks to blindly go along with it due to hate. If the govt can short circuit whatever partial benefits they were supposed to have accrued in that 15-19 year career window, then they could do that to anyone in military or govt. 19 years? 29 years? 1 year away from retirement… oops too bad you get nothing. Who is to say they’d even stop at “early retirement” or partially vested people? I’m not even sure what a valid basis to steal someone’s retirement would be, other than in the case of military being discharged for serious crimes. They are basically treating these people like dishonorable discharge which is flatly disgusting.
     
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  8. SotaGator

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    I really really want to believe you don't seriously mean this about trans people,
    especially those who have served in the military.
     
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  9. G8tas

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    You have to understand that Bill is not allowed to say anything negative against the administration
     
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  10. g8orbill

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    the fact that they served in the military has nothing to do with their mental illness - trans people are mentally ill and should get treatment- I never said anything about what they earned while in the military - I did say they have no business anywhere near a gun
     
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  11. chemgator

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    Because all people in the military carry a weapon? Secretaries, doctors, nurses, cooks, accountants, mechanics, clerks--all carry weapons?
     
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  12. AzCatFan

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    What are your qualifications to make a mental illness diagnosis? What's your education? What advanced degrees do you hold? And how many transgendered people have you treated? Heck, how many have you ever met?
     
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  13. g8orbill

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    az- anyone who thinks they can change their sex is mentally ill- you get what you had when you came into this world-I am assuming you are a male- so if you cut off your johnson, you would still be a male, just one with a screw loose
     
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  14. AzCatFan

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    Sex is biological. Gender is societal. And neither are as cut and dry as you want them to be. Several species in the animal kingdom can change sex from male to female or visa-versa. And gender? Trans and cross dressing has been around forever.

    Now, back to your diagnosis. Again, what are your qualifications? Because several mental health professionals with advanced degrees from the World Health Organization believe gender dysmorphia is not a mental illness. Why not trust their expertise? Unless you have some credentials that compare?
     
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  15. tigator2019

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    In my head--- UF
    not a ‘lifestyle’ choice but agree wirh the rest
     
  16. SotaGator

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    Yet to serve in the military for years on end, especially combat roles, means a person has undergone strenuous physical and psychological evaluation.

    Where do you get off claiming that these active military persons are suffering from mental illness?
     
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  17. g8orbill

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    you think cutting off your johnson is normal behavior - hell no it isn’t
     
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  18. tilly

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    Disagreeing about Trans issues isn't "hate"...but the rest of this post is spot on.
     
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  19. tilly

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    Normal isn't the requirement for a pension.
    I think something is broken in these folks too, but they did their job...and well it seems, since they were kept for so long, so pay them what they have legally earned.
     
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  20. g8orbill

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    I never commented on that part of the issue- I merely said it was mental illness that they needed to be treated for
     
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