War in Ukraine

Your last statement hits the nail right on the head. Trump does not give two $hits about the Ukrainian people or their fight to remain democratic. He is there just to ensure that he gets his fair share of the wealth for himself and his family.

 

I heard some one describe Trump as a mafia boss because he looks at wars like the fights between mafia families. Those mafia families are in the business of making money and wars between families disrupt that. If you look at what the second Trump Admin FP has been, it has been focusing on ending conflicts.

 

Zelensky is living in fantasy land. Says no land can be given up but fails to acknowledge the majority of that area likes Russia better anyway and the land won't be given up as Russia has already taken it. The US needs to just cut off the aid. Wasting all these billions with money we don't have. Let Europe pay the full bill since it was their like minded naive globalist con men along with their friends in the US that created this situation.

 

US aid is under 0.5% of our budget and much of it supports US jobs, while Europe is already contributing heavily. This isn’t just Europe’s problem if you want US to be the leader of the West.

Pathetic capitulation to Russia would make Reagan sick. Sad times that isolationists are back. Want all the benefits of the US hegemony, but want to capitulate at every turn. Honestly, glad Trump has ignored this wing thus far; credit where credit is due.

 

There is no capitulation Zelensky just agrees to a permanent cease fire with no deal on any land as Donbass is never going back under western Ukraine control anyway and it stops the mass slaughter of his soldiers.

lol.. Typical globalist puppet talking point that 130+ billion in aid is small change. There are much better uses for that money than letting a country keep slaughtering g its own people in a war that is effectively already over as far as Donbass.

 

Uses like what? Detaining day laborers in cages so we can feed bottom line of private prison contractors?

Absolute joke you are complaining about 130 billion of largely surplus military hardware where we get to test it in the field. Compared to the 4t handout to the wealthy via tax cuts.

Isolationists are not America first in any way. US leads the world and if we don’t, we are going to suffer for it. We need to be the reserve currency and project our power. Abandoning our leadership position is what your myopic ilk want to do. Turn that over to China and Russia to dominate is a formula for us to end up like Portugal and France. In a global economy, want to close your eyes and cover your ears and pretend that we can somehow ignore the rest of the world.

 

It is small change, when you compare it to the $2.5 trillion that we would save if Russia is defeated in this war. The savings are literally almost 20 times greater (it is a 1900+% return on investment). And if we manage the rebuilding of Russia correctly, we could save more like $5-10 trillion if we could ensure that Russia will be a peaceful country for decades into the future (more if China is persuaded not to invade their neighbors). Need I remind you that Germany has been a peaceful country for eighty years since WWII?

If Ukraine can hold off long enough for Russia's economy to collapse, then they will win this war, and Donbass residents will gladly welcome back Ukrainian control, with the exception of a small percentage of pro-Russian troublemakers (many of whom were inserted by Putin in 2014 to cause trouble). Only a Russian propagandist would not realize that all of the polls that indicate that Russia is the more popular country with residents of the Donbass were done by Russian pollsters, some with gunmen at their side. And, no, Ukraine is not intentionally slaughtering their own people in Donbass. They are targeting Russia's military. Russia is the one attacking Ukrainian cities with missiles and drones.

For the record, it is much more respectable to be a "globalist puppet" than a Putin puppet, which is what it sounds like you are at this point. I hope you get educated at some point. Maybe it will help you recover from your fever which seems to be affecting your judgment.

 

It could be true, but I would find it very hard to believe. The U.S. is not in any position to force Ukraine to give up land. Ukraine will not support it and neither will the European allies. Unlike in similar situations in the past, such as with South Korea or South Vietnam (i.e. “We are moving forward with this imperfect peace plan whether you, the aggrieved state, like it or not”), our assistance to Ukraine is helpful but not decisive. They can fight on without us and have proven it. There is no reason at all to just give Russia what it is unable to earn on the battlefield. I do, however, have no issue with meeting Putin without Ukraine present. Frankly, that would be a better forum for slapping down on the table the whole truth we know about Russia’s economic and military situation and asking Putin directly if he really thinks he’s in a sound position to be demanding territory that his armed forces are physically incapable of taking.

 

Completely bungled, as per the norm for this admin, but apparently true. From the WSJ:

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Well, that is at least a little different from the earlier suggestion. Instead of the question being how much more land Ukraine has to give up, in this scenario it’s how much land Russia has to give up of what it has already taken. That certainly shows a Russian awareness that the war is not going its way.

 

The War Walrus weighs in. Note: I wouldn’t confuse lack of leverage with appeasement …

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