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New polls show bad news for Democrats and they can only blame themselves.

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by jjgator55, Aug 2, 2025 at 10:03 PM.

  1. VAg8r1

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    One possible explanation for the difference between the more positive response regarding party affiliation and the negative response regarding favorability is that a significant percentage of Democrat leaning voters are disappointed in what they consider the apparently weak response of the party's leadership to Trump's policies.

    It should also be noted that Democrats have been outperforming the expected results in the polls that matter i.e special elections.

    Democratic performance is improving in a slew of special elections, as a weary party looks for signs of hope
     
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  2. chemgator

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    How about the part that FIRES federal employees because they put out a report that the president does not agree with, simply because the president has gone around announcing that his first six months of his current term is the best in the history of the U.S., and the report is clear evidence that this is not true. He accuses the report writer of lying on the report without evidence, and fires her. Sounds like textbook fascism to me.


    Re: immigrants.

    What if getting rid of the Mexican immigrants is devastating for the U.S. economy? What if no Americans step up and offer to install roofs, pick fruits and vegetables, and work in meat packing factories for minimal wages? Are you going to volunteer for one or more of those jobs? Take one for the team? Hmmm?
     
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  4. Emmitto

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    100%.

    Until they can get past easy shit like dudes not playing women in sports they’ll never get to power cleans.
     
  5. luvtruthg8r

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    Yes, that's much more important than preserving democracy and stopping fascism. Why can't they understand what's important? I'm flummoxed. The HELL with democracy. Not playing women in men's sports is MUCH more important. Where are my priorities?
     
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  6. Emmitto

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    For all of Corey Booker’s mean-facing, never once did he articulate what all that means.

    Is Corey Booker gonna be the one to tell the fringes how they are indeed the fringes?

    I mean telling the trans community that they welcome to be in it but not driving the car may be uncomfortable, but it’s both real and fair.

    Until I see Booker mean face that message he’s just another dude saying stuff.
     
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  7. luvtruthg8r

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    Do you not understand that compared to the end of democracy and the concomitant endorsement of fascism, this means next to nothing? Keep worrying about transsexuals. That is MUCH more important than preserving democracy and fighting off the end of the country we have had for more than two hundred years. That's what Trump wants you to do instead of preventing him from becoming our dictator. Congratulations on pleasing him and his merry band of fascists!
     
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  8. Emmitto

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    Apparently you don’t understand that is indeed my worry, and these non-fights are facilitating it.

    While D’s fight these 0.5% fights they lose the 10% in the middle that are aren’t entrenched in theatrics and YouTube histrionics.

    If you want to stave off the 4th Reich, get off the clown wagon.

    By “you” I mean actual elected officials. This foot-stomping from Mean Face Booker is farcical until he says HOW.

    He is mad-baby-foot-stomping all around the giant elephant in the room. Boo effing hoo Corey, widdle cutie-poo!
     
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  9. Gatorrick22

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    Erroneous opinions like yours about our president should never be confused with facts. Something the Dems conflate all too often, opinions and facts. Lets' back up and start from the beginning. You called President Trump a dictator... that's NOT only your opinion, but it's factually false. Defend that opinion.

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  10. Gatorrick22

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    Trump is the leader of the entire Executive Branch of the Federal Government. He can hire and fire whomever he wants in his branch of those agencies. And he wants HIS PEOPLE IN HIS AGENCIES... I know you hate that, but ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES.

    I love how you Dems think that nearly 80 million people voted for President Trump just so that he can keep Biden's Leftists/Dems flunkies in HIS (president Trump's) AGENCIES... Lol.

    Sorry, but President Trump can appoint his people as he pleases, and I know you hate that fact.

    Me... I love it.... Melt...
     
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  11. Gatorrick22

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    Describe fascism. Clearly you do NOT know what that word means.
     
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  12. jjgator55

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    Yes Trump can hire and fire whoever he wants, but using loyalty to him as the only criteria isn’t the smartest thing to do. In fact it’s nothing more than a temper tantrum for not getting what he wants. You’re banking on him being right despite not showing a shred of evidence that the numbers were wrong. That’s a huge leap of faith but if the person he brings in just does the job and reports the actual numbers then no harm. But if they start fudging the numbers by using “alternative sources to get better results,” just to please Trump then it can lead to the economic collapse in this country.
     
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  13. luvtruthg8r

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    Let's face it. Trump fired her because she told a truth he did not like. The next one will be brought in to lie when the numbers are not what Trump wants them to be, and we all know that (otherwise, why did he fire her?). That person will have no reason to lie when the true numbers are good, but since we all will know that the person will have been brought in to try to lie away bad economic numbers, even when that person posts honestly derived good results, we will have no expectation that the good numbers are real and we will not be able to count on their being real.

    So that is just one way Trump's dishonest firing of the head of the BLS will harm us. Even when the numbers actually are good, since nobody will know whether or not they are honest, we will not accrue the full benefits we should accrue from any future good economic news.
     
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    If you can't beat them, cheat.
     
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    Fixed it for you by adding omitted text.
    If you can't beat them, cheat... like they do.
     
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    Agree but the issue is that the Dem umbrella contains many many many small factions like trans rights. The issue is that most of those small groups don't like the other small groups so it's difficult to build consensus other than saying Trump is a racist / fascist dictator and hope that's enough for everyone to get behind.