Hillary approved plan to smear Trump with Russia collusion

How does that post talk to any of the concerns Republicans had about electing a political new comer with no political record to speak of that had been a Democrat or Independent for the majority of his adult life?

BTW, the Clinton Admin agenda that Bill was able to get through with a Republican Congress was much more conservative than the BBB that was just passed. Democrats now look back at the agenda Bill Clinton passed and heap scorn upon it.

 

It was directed at your second, concluding paragraph, where you said HRC agenda was somehow different from dems. If anything, her leftistism was echoed by sellout pub establishment, along with the base far left dem party at time (even worse today).

To your "btw"--billiy bob was driven by his leftist wife in his first term; second term saw him scrub his presidency of her flighty leftism, and pragmatically go full centrist, and work with Gringrich's "Contract with America" GOP house, that his Leftist wife helped him earn.

She never changed.

The dem party just veered hard Left, and caught up with her.

 

^^^as for the BBB... we're there

....and by "there", I mean time for drastic (Hail Mary) action.

NB: we're paying >1 *TRILLION * per year, just servicing our debt (for ref, we spend 850 Billion on our massive defense budget).

That story ends one way, and it aint pretty.

 

Sounds like a threat to democracy.

 

No, you’re thinking about the Russians.

 

The point I was making was the Congressional Democrats in '17 could have been able to woe Trump over on multiple different issues by promising that he would get credit for passing center-left, center, or center-right bills if they played to his ego and put his name on all of them. This was a significant worry for a lot of establishment Republicans. The RussiaGate stuff showed Trump what it is like to be a Republican with the media and pushed further to the Right than establishment Republicans were expecting.

Clinton is probably the smartest politician we have seen in the last 30 years. He realized he overreached and after losing significant Congressional mid-terms tacked back to the center and has able to have a successful policy administration.

 

Ok, and then the point id counter with, is that that aint how *Leftists* roll--bc Trump would be in power, which means they (dems) would not be in control (=power).

Leftism is about centralized power. One party, pretend elections, farcical *democracy* ..

(NB: all Leftist calculus is reverse engineered from endpoint = them, in Total control).

You're imputing pragmatism, to power pigs.

As for billybob--nah, not even close to the smartest poly. He just read a room well, and had a healthy dose of common sense.

Gingrich made the deciding, pretty easy, and billybob chose well--or at least, not stupidly, or vainly.

But, rare as it is these days, let's not get carried away and laud common sense as genius, just bc common sense is so rare.

 

Relative to today’s standards, common sense is genius. I also believe that it is essential to combatting the indoctrination of younger generations, which, along with getting the USG financially viable again, are the most important issues of the day.

Today common sense is not common. We do need to make it common again.

 

Perhaps you missed the post in another thread, where I quoted you in regard to said committee. I am not discounting them at all.

I am saying they are more credible than captured. (Which you acted like was the only source.)

 

It didn't make sense to me why Durham would have these alleged "bombshell" emails and bury them in an appendix despite his purpose being to discredit anything related to the Russia investigation. Now we have our answer:

The reason they were buried in the appendix is because Durham concluded they were not genuine and were likely fakes made by Russian spies

'Clinton Plan' Emails Were Likely Made by Russian Spies, Declassified Report Shows

The article goes into more detail if you're interested but here was Durham's conclusion:

I can only assume everyone on this thread will be consistent and call for Gabbard, Patel, etc. to be charged with Fraud and various other crimes for knowingly pushing a false narrative, right?

 

Yeah, I read yesterday these were likely fakes. Even if they were real, dont really understand the idea that Russian interference is a hoax, when these emails were obtained from Russian hackers. Looks like the poster known for posting fraudulent videos got had again ... surprise! Its pretty amazing what the right wing media is able to gin up with stuff that has already been around for years at this point - from an investigation from the previous Trump administration no less!

 

LOL. You've "both sides"d yourself into defending the NY Post and asserting that ..... lolol .... CatTurd isn't your only source.

Our government is run by a felon who appoints unqualified conspiracy theorists, whose jobs aren't to better our country or help people, but rather to gaslight and distract with one kookspiracy theory after another. (Shouldn't Obama be locked up for treason, lol.)

But here you are defending thst because ..... look, it's not just CatTurd!

Have fun with that and good day.

 

anyone who opposes dear leader is a criminal and a traitor in their world.

 

So is everyone in agreement now that Durham is a honest actor and not Barr's Hatch-man and his report on Crossfire Hurricane is to be viewed as credible?

 

Dude stop.

Just straight up STOP. You're making this board unreadable. The Times continues to report out well researched and vetted pieces and consistently shows their math but you don't read those pieces you go straight to the CEO of (checks notes) The Federalist's Twitter profile to rehash the same gobbledygook.

Hell, you probably REALLY believe Kash found a bag of files sitting in a room that will blow this case open, don't you?

 

Like clockwork.