Unless the settlement is cast aside in litigation, the Gators could see the amount they can pay their men's basketball players cut in half. That's my concern.
I don’t even think the NCAA believes that will happen. The third party money will continue to flow. The settlement is between House and NCAA. Nobody involved here had the right to negotiate for the entirety of college athletes. SCOTUS has already told the NCAA they cannot restrict the earning potential of their athletes. The clearinghouse is attempting to do exactly that. It won’t hold up. This is not new stuff. It’s been discussed repeatedly.
The Power 5 football schools have all opted in to the settlement, and many other schools also have opted in. I don't recall seeing much of a discussion about it on the basketball boards. I haven't looked at the football boards.
It's been discussed on every college sports board I've been on in the last year or so. The schools don't get to negotiate for the athletes, which is what they've attempted here. The athletes didn't agree for House and Prince to represent them. The athletes didn't agree to let the NCAA turn away their NIL deals. The SCOTUS has already told the schools they can't do what they're trying to do.
The SCOTUS has become a rubber stamp for Trump. I don't see SCOTUS overturning Trump's executive order which duplicates the settlement's rule that payments under NIL contracts need to be at fair market value. If this turns out to be the case, the players on the Gator basketball team will only be able to receive in future seasons about 1/2 (above the table) of what they are currently receiving for the 2025-2026 season. There is no point in continuing to debate how this will play out. We will find out soon enough.
So you bumped the thread again for what reason? Your premise is not based on anything substantial either, just fear. The guys carrying most of the weight for our NIL collective have their own legit businesses and can cut deals under those names. They do this for some of the bigger deals as it is. You're welcome to do the same if you're so worried about it. If the NCAA says you can't, just sue them. You will win. There is no law against making poor business decisions. If some guy wants to pay a high school kid 2 million dollars to come to their granddaughter's bday or do a signing at their car dealership, who says that's above fair market value? Hint; SCOTUS has already told the NCAA it ain't them. Their time is worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it, just like mine or yours. I see no rule anywhere that says Gator basketball players will have their NIL cut in half. You've dreamed that up all by yourself. You have a lot more confidence in the settlement holding up than any person I've seen (outside of the media whose job is to generate clicks).
I am done discussing this with you. I started a thread on this message board to explain to people how the settlement worked. I don’t think you know how it works. Deloitte will be scrutinizing every new contract entered into for an amount in excess of $600. A $1 million contract between a Gator basketball player and a Gainesville business is likely not going to be determined to be at fair market value. Could things change? Sure, but as of right now, something bad is likely going to happen if the amount of a NIL contract exceeds the fair market value of the contract.
You started a thread on a message board to explain how YOU THINK the settlement works. It didn't catch any traction despite your repeated attempts. It's a new topic to you, but others have been watching and talking about it for over a year. The reason your thread is not catching any traction is because the settlement has largely been deemed a joke, since well before it was even an official settlement and most people who felt like talking about it have already talked about it. The schools can't set a cap on their spending and eliminate any third party deals they don't like. That's price fixing/collusion, and that's not legal. Not legal- like people go to jail- not legal. If they want a real salary cap, they need real salaries and a cba. That would require employment and the players organizing. They tried to make some kind of quasi-cba with this lawsuit but they didn't involve the majority party. You can't just do that, and they've already been told what they're doing is not going to fly. This settlement is just the NCAA continuing to grasp at straws. It may buy them some time, but it won't change the flow of money significantly, IMO. These little individual lawsuits are just going to breed more individual lawsuits. Until they figure out how to negotiate with the athletes as a whole, this is what you're going to have. Never ending litigation. I am not worried at all about UF and it's backers not being able to spend what they want. If the money is available and they want to spend it, they will figure out how to get it where it's meant to go.
Just to be clear, almost no one was talking about the settlement on these basketball message boards. I started this thread after the settlement went into effect on July 1 to explain how it is intended to work. Every college sports program is going to have to take the settlement into account unless the settlement, Trump's executive order and likely federal legislation are thrown out by the courts. The risk to a college's sports programs is too great to not take the settlement into account.
You started this thread here to explain how YOU THINK it's intended to work. That doesn't mean it's going to actually work that way. The NCAA doesn't always get to do what it intends to do, and this settlement will be no different, imo. Your fearmongering about UF not being able to keep up with some mid major without a football team is just that, fearmongering. You have nothing to support that other than your opinion based on the limited amount you've recently learned about the settlement. I'm not saying they won't ever lose a bidding war to a mid major, I'm simply saying UF and it's backers will figure out how to get the money where they want it to go. If they have the money and the desire, they will spend it. It has definitely been discussed on this board, because I have discussed it here. You not venturing outside of the bubble of Gatorcountry's Nuttin' but Net doesn't change the fact that it has been discussed all over every college sports board there is for over a year. The bulk of what was going to be in the settlement was known for a LONG time. I'm worried about the EO even less than I'm worried about the settlement. You have been watching the NCAA lose lawsuit after lawsuit after lawsuit over the last decade+, right? Hell, they lost big on this one too, they just tried to throw a bunch of stuff into the settlement that they're trying to use to do things the SCOTUS has already told them they can't do. Problem is, the athletes they're trying to enforce this settlement on didn't actually agree to this settlement. They had nothing to do with it. When their NIL deals get kicked back, they will be challenged, and the NCAA will lose, just like pretty much every other lawsuit they've lost in the recent past. I can show case after case after case of them losing these challenges and lawsuits, can you show one they won? Surely they must have won one, but I can't recall one.
For the record, I have been aware of the lawsuit for quite a while, but I didn't post anything of significance before the settlement was finalized. The original post from early June on this topic that you are referring to contained a total of 6 posts, 2 of which were yours. You are correct that my OP set forth how I believe the settlement is intended to work. That doesn't mean that the challenges to it or interpretations of it by the enforcement entity won't change the result. However, in the absence of successful challenges, if for example, the enforcement entity tells UF that one of its basketball players has an illegal NIL contract, TG and Stricklin are not going to ignore it.
It has been discussed on this board in far more than 6 posts. I did not refer to a single thread. There will be many challenges and there will be many challenges that are successful. Rest easy. What they're trying to do is not legal, man. It just isn't. The Alston case that's already been through the Supreme Court will help limit the things you're concerned about in this case in short order. The power schools that desire to be competitive in football did not just give away all of their march madness money.
Don’t have a conniption. I was just trying to help people understand the possible impact of the settlement; and I was using qualifiers such as “might affect,” “my guess is,” “it appears to me, “to my knowledge,” and “ there is a caveat to the foregoing.”
Conniption? You’ve been desperately seeking attention to your thoughts on this subject. I’m just giving you what you asked for. You keep bumping the thread, trying to get someone to bite, can’t figure out why nobody cares and why nobody wants to talk about it. The fact is, the topic HAS been discussed. It has been discussed a lot. Another reason you’re not getting the response you’re after is that this post is largely just your opinion on what you think is going to happen. Your concerns are rooted in fear more than fact. Fear that is misplaced, imo. Maybe a lack of awareness as well. The NCAA has repeatedly gotten their ass kicked on this topic. They even got their ass kicked in this settlement. Why do you think they’re going to all of a sudden be able to flip the script on this and do whatever they want? Not just that, but you believe they’re going to get away with doing something the highest court in the land has already outright told them they can’t do. The clearinghouse and the school cap are both attempts to limit the earning potential of the athletes. SCOTUS has already told the NCAA that any attempts to limit the earning potential of the athletes will be shut down. They’d pretty much have to get the Alston ruling tossed to get away with what they’re trying to do here. The clearinghouse getting kicked seems much more likely to me than the Alston case getting kicked. The schools/boosters that want to spend the most will continue to do so. The third party money is going to continue to flow.
It has more to do with the relentless attention seeking and bumping the thread. You were begging for a response. I gave you one that’s kept your thread at the top for two more days. Figured you’d be happy.
