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House vs. NCAA

Discussion in 'Nuttin but Net' started by tampajack1, Jul 23, 2025.

  1. tampajack1

    tampajack1 Premium Member

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    Unless the settlement is cast aside in litigation, the Gators could see the amount they can pay their men's basketball players cut in half. That's my concern.
     
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    I don’t even think the NCAA believes that will happen. The third party money will continue to flow.

    The settlement is between House and NCAA. Nobody involved here had the right to negotiate for the entirety of college athletes. SCOTUS has already told the NCAA they cannot restrict the earning potential of their athletes. The clearinghouse is attempting to do exactly that. It won’t hold up.

    This is not new stuff. It’s been discussed repeatedly.
     
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    The Power 5 football schools have all opted in to the settlement, and many other schools also have opted in. I don't recall seeing much of a discussion about it on the basketball boards. I haven't looked at the football boards.
     
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    It's been discussed on every college sports board I've been on in the last year or so.

    The schools don't get to negotiate for the athletes, which is what they've attempted here. The athletes didn't agree for House and Prince to represent them. The athletes didn't agree to let the NCAA turn away their NIL deals. The SCOTUS has already told the schools they can't do what they're trying to do.
     
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    The SCOTUS has become a rubber stamp for Trump. I don't see SCOTUS overturning Trump's executive order which duplicates the settlement's rule that payments under NIL contracts need to be at fair market value. If this turns out to be the case, the players on the Gator basketball team will only be able to receive in future seasons about 1/2 (above the table) of what they are currently receiving for the 2025-2026 season. There is no point in continuing to debate how this will play out. We will find out soon enough.
     
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    So you bumped the thread again for what reason?

    Your premise is not based on anything substantial either, just fear. The guys carrying most of the weight for our NIL collective have their own legit businesses and can cut deals under those names. They do this for some of the bigger deals as it is. You're welcome to do the same if you're so worried about it. If the NCAA says you can't, just sue them. You will win.

    There is no law against making poor business decisions. If some guy wants to pay a high school kid 2 million dollars to come to their granddaughter's bday or do a signing at their car dealership, who says that's above fair market value? Hint; SCOTUS has already told the NCAA it ain't them. Their time is worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it, just like mine or yours.

    I see no rule anywhere that says Gator basketball players will have their NIL cut in half. You've dreamed that up all by yourself. You have a lot more confidence in the settlement holding up than any person I've seen (outside of the media whose job is to generate clicks).
     
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    I am done discussing this with you. I started a thread on this message board to explain to people how the settlement worked. I don’t think you know how it works. Deloitte will be scrutinizing every new contract entered into for an amount in excess of $600. A $1 million contract between a Gator basketball player and a Gainesville business is likely not going to be determined to be at fair market value. Could things change? Sure, but as of right now, something bad is likely going to happen if the amount of a NIL contract exceeds the fair market value of the contract.
     
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    You started a thread on a message board to explain how YOU THINK the settlement works. It didn't catch any traction despite your repeated attempts. It's a new topic to you, but others have been watching and talking about it for over a year. The reason your thread is not catching any traction is because the settlement has largely been deemed a joke, since well before it was even an official settlement and most people who felt like talking about it have already talked about it.

    The ncaa can't set a cap on their spending and eliminate any third party deals they don't like. That's price fixing/collusion, and that's not legal. Not legal- like people go to jail- not legal. If they want a real salary cap, they need real salaries and a cba. That would require employment and the players organizing. They tried to make some kind of quasi-cba with this lawsuit but they didn't involve the majority party. You can't just do that, and they've already been told what they're doing is not going to fly. This settlement is just the NCAA continuing to grasp at straws. It may buy them some time, but it won't change the flow of money significantly, IMO. These little individual lawsuits are just going to breed more individual lawsuits. Until they figure out how to negotiate with the athletes as a whole, this is what you're going to have. Never ending litigation.

    I am not worried at all about UF and it's backers not being able to spend what they want. If the money is available and they want to spend it, they will figure out how to get it where it's meant to go.