War in Ukraine

I’d like to think that was true but recent events (pandemic)have shown that even that doesn’t seem to sink in.

 

If that dumbass’ grizzly battlefield death in the service of stealing land for a brutal and incompetent dictator serves to wake up one person about what Russia is, then …

 

Links to your sources?

Only a third of Donbas wanted to join Russia in 2014. And you have to remember, at the time, Ukraine was a much more corrupt country than they are now. Ukraine was also less prosperous than they were just prior to the invasion. They have cleaned up much of the corruption since the war started, so they could receive western aid. Presumably, the way that Russia has treated the residents of Donbas since the invasion (stealing their appliances, destroying their homes, etc.) has not improved public opinion in Russia's favor.

Based on everyone's expectations, Russia has fallen short of achieving its goals in this war in a timely manner, and that is a huge understatement. Russia itself thought the war would only last a few weeks, yet it has been going for 41 months. Sanctions have gotten progressively tougher, and now average Russians are struggling to afford eggs and potatoes as inflation increases past 8% (and interest rates are at 20%). I don't recall any dems saying the war would be won by social media. Russia has lost thousands of tanks and thousands of armored personnel carriers, and over a hundred thousand troops. They still don't have air superiority over Ukraine. Their navy is basically out of the war completely, with their Black Sea flagship sunk, along with other ships.

Russia is only a few months away from economic collapse. Without an economy, Russia will lose this war. The sanctions have been effective, but they won't win the war by themselves. Ukraine doesn't have to drive Russia out of their country--they merely have to play defense and retreat slowly towards Kiev, making the Russians pay for their gains. In less than a year, Russia's economy will collapse, and Russia will go home.

There is no evidence that Ukraine is targeting civilians in this war, with the exception of a few Russian oligarchs involved in the military industrial complex of Russia. The attacks by Ukraine since 2014 were on terrorist Russians that Putin inserted into eastern Ukraine to destabilize the country. It was Putin's plan for a non-military takeover of Ukraine, with a backup plan for creating an excuse for an invasion.

 

lol.. a quick search will show you what has been going on since 2014. The mainstream lefty media even had articles back then talking about all the Nazi sympathizers in the Ukraine armed forces but of course all that was forgotten once the Ukraine War started. The facts are that area likes Russia better anyway and Ukraine won't be getting it back. Now would Russia have eventually took Donbass anyway? Not sure but it would have probably been years later. America needs to stop wasting all these billions just to kill all these people and to enrich Zelensky and his crooked friends.

 

Advertising must be extraordinarily effective with people like you.

 

I think he is likely referring to the same info that a now absent poster kept trying to say showed the AFU was shelling an area of the Donbas. It's not anything realistic.

 

Ukraine: Unguided Rockets Killing Civilians

Ukraine crisis: the neo-Nazi brigade fighting pro-Russian separatists

 

For the hundredth time, we are not providing cash to Zelenskyy, we are providing weapons, and have been since the first few months of the war. Unless he is selling these weapons to third parties, it does not seem likely that he is cashing in on American donations to Ukraine. He may be pocketing money from the EU, but not from the U.S.

Do you have any proof that Zelenskyy is crooked? I would put him up against Donald Trump every day of the week and twice on Sundays for ethical behavior, and he would win easily. Trump has been all about profit for himself and his cronies, and is as crooked as the day is long. Compared to Trump, Zelenskyy is a combination of George Washington and Abraham Lincoln. He's also braver than President Bonespurs, but that goes without saying.

You have not provided any evidence that Donbas likes Russia better than Ukraine. In the only referendums that I'm aware of (1991 and 2014), over 83% chose to belong to Ukraine (1991), and two thirds of the residents choose Ukraine (2014). Why don't you tell us what polls you are looking at?

Donbas - Wikipedia

The idea that there are Nazi sympathizers in Ukraine's military lost a lot of steam when it turned out that the U.S. military has Nazi sympathizers, and so does Russia's. It turns out that most western militaries have at least a few people who admire the Third Reich for various reasons. It does not mean that the entire military is a recreation of the Nazi military of the 1930's, or supports Hitler's policies.

As far as the U.S. wasting billions of dollars, I would disagree with that. Sending weapons to Ukraine is a smart investment. Ensuring that Russia is defeated in this war will improve U.S. security (reducing the number of near-peer adversaries in the world from two to one) and reduce government spending on defense. In other words, spending billions now will save trillions in the next decade. It happened in the 1990's and would happen again. And China will think twice about invading Taiwan if Russia is not at full strength as an international trouble-maker to back up China.

 

TRADING WITH THE ENEMY

 

It's called doing whatever it takes to defeat the enemy. This war is an existential one for Zelenskyy and Ukraine. I can't blame them for doing some wheeling and dealing to get what they need to fight Russia. It's all well and good to sit in your armchair and be sanctimonious about the details of every trade, but your life and your family's lives are not at stake based on the outcome of the war. No doubt, a few Ukrainians are trying to get rich off the deals, but that can be dealt with later. Winning the war is the top priority. And again, it is not American money that Ukraine is working with, and hasn't been since 2022. It is Europe's money. We only gave Ukraine cash during the first few months of the war.

 

The ravages of artillery …

 

Hopefully, Europe hasn't reached their limits of dealing with Trump and his tariffs, insults, etc.

 

Well it’s their own interests, so hopefully that has nothing to do with whatever Trump says on other matters. Esp if this admin is actually making positive steps against Russia, EU should certainly match that.

 

Exactly. I would put up with a month of Sundays of the President’s BS if it meant we started taking this war seriously for the first time and began working toward the strategic defeat of Russia. Europe will feel the same way.

 

Trump's recent statements about resuming military assistance (while his DOD appointee scowls in the background) is somewhat encouraging but considering this president does more flipping and flopping on pretty much (EVERYTHING) than Mary Lou Retton and Nadia Comaneci, in their careers combined, I take his statement, not with a grain of salt, but with a railroad car full.

Putin is a LIAR and perhaps even Trump may be coming to that realization.

Despite the Kremlin propagandists that post on this site (we know who you are, your adulation for the THUG and Criminal Putin, pours forth from your keypads like a river of diarrhea), anyone that has a brain and can walk and chew gum knows exactly who he is, a maniacal, murderous, treacherous dictator, trained and honed in the dying embers of a failed Soviet communist system, a product of the KGB, and it's various manifestations - The Cheka, the OGPU/GPU, and the NKVD, all brought to you courtesy of Joseph Stalin.

Any American that seriously thinks this man will do ANYTHING in the interest of peace, order and economic cooperation with other nations for the collective good of the world is a fool.

The June 6th 1944 Normandy landings, (which rescued Western Europe from Soviet territorial domination) the Berlin Airlift, The Korean and Vietnam wars and the countless proxie conflicts all over the globe since 1944 / 45 prove, beyond doubt, that the balance of power has been fought between two sides. Democratic States and Totalitarian Ones, and the main power brokers for those sides since 44/45 have been and continue to be the USA and Russia. (Yes China is now positioning itself to assume the mantle from Russia, but has been far less inclined toward military confrontation).

For all the "Warts" of the West we have a choice to make, whose damn side are we on?

I KNOW what side I am on. Don't fall for the B.S of propagandists..............

 

Another indication that Russia is not doing so well. Russia is using teenagers to make drones for the war in Ukraine. As if Russia's quality control on weapons was not low enough already . . . In another couple years, Russian teenagers will be on the front lines, while the elementary school kids will be making the weapons. A couple years after that, the elementary school kids will be on the front lines, while toddlers will start working in the factory making weapons as soon as they get out of their diapers.

After Russia loses this war, their citizens will need some serious de-programming. Their population may not be capable of any occupation that is not war-related.

https://www.euronews.com/2025/07/21...-production-using-teenage-workers-video-shows

 

Putin is getting rid of his oligarchs and government officials, and they aren't happy about it. Some are being sent to prison, some are being killed, and some are killing themselves before Putin can get to them. People in government suspected of corruption are also disappearing. Some in Moscow are whispering that there is an echo of Stalinist Purges of the 1930's to this development. Putin may see himself in an existential war for his own future, even though he knows that Russia is in no danger of being conquered.

Apparently, Russia's economy is doing so badly that Putin has to nationalize businesses to get his hands on enough money to keep the war going. And this means disconnecting the oligarchs from their businesses. Putin has recovered less than $29 billion so far from his privatization efforts, which will not help him that much in the short term, except to delay the end by a few weeks. The end for Russia is not too far off.

Russian elite living in fear as Putin purges take bloody toll

 

Russia didn't want Donetsk and Luhansk to join Russia in 2014.

Roughly 90% of the people in Donetsk voted for self-rule in 2014. Roughly 96% of the people voting in Luhansk voted for separation in 2014. No way of telling how accurate these reported numbers were.