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The DIGNITY Act 2025 - American Strip Mall Edition

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by saltydoggator, Jul 18, 2025 at 12:06 AM.

  1. saltydoggator

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    The bipartisan DIGNITY Act 2025 bill is currently weaving its way through Congress. It further converts the United States into nothing more than economic zone by condoning and legalizing the presence of persons that entered illegally to exploit the United State's resources with none of that Civic Nationalism we used to hear so much about. The wildest part about the bill is it effectively creates an indentured servant class by requiring illegals to pay $5,000 in restitution for their "passage" into the strip mall of America!

    Amnesty Bill Will Allow Illegals To Keep Using U.S. As A Piggy Bank

    From the article: "Mass migration — whether legal or illegal — treats America not as a nation with a specific culture, language, heritage and people to be protected, but merely as a global economic opportunity zone for anyone who wants to cash in. There’s no concern for the cultural, social, or economic impacts on the communities forced to absorb this endless influx of illegal aliens. Which is precisely why [Reps. María Elvira] Salazar’s [R-FL 27th] statement — that “most” illegal immigrants don’t even seek citizenship — is so troubling."

    The Dignity Act: Bill Summary
     
  2. wgbgator

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    Just the low end version of Trump offering citizenship to people who pay five million dollars or whatever it is.
     
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  3. BLING

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    For one to be concerned with protecting America’s culture, one would have to start with the notion the United States has some homogenous culture to be protected. It never has. At best the U.S. has some regional cultures, ironically because groups of immigrants originally flocked there (French Creole influence in Louisiana, Cubans in Miami, “little Italy” in a few big cities, Chinese in CA, Irish in Boston… etc).

    The core United States culture always was that it was known as the land of opportunity. Ironically, what this person speaks out most vehemently against is America’s secret sauce for economic success….
     
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  4. wgbgator

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    Protecting "culture" has always meant keeping America white & protestant for this crowd. Its not like they give a shit about actual culture or support the arts or whatever.
     
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    At least cartels don’t have cash.
     
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  6. saltydoggator

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    The United States was established by and even remains to this day a predominately white Anglo Protestant culture. Admittedly, that is changing day by day. Through the countries 250 year history, the culture became subtly varied with the addition of almost exclusive European migration thorough 1965, but nevertheless those persons were bound by a shared European history and traditions. In 1790 80.7% of the population was white, with 19.3% of the population being black. Even as late as 1990 the white population was 80.3% and the black population was 12.1%, leaving balance of all other races and ethnicities comprising just 7.6% of the US population after over 200 years of our existence. The notion that the United States has no distinct culture absent China Town and Little Havana is simply untrue and the statistics do not support.

    I could not find a concise report since 1990, but if care to look: https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/working-papers/2002/demo/POP-twps0056.pdf
     
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  7. saltydoggator

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    The United States was founded by white Anglo Protestants who risked their lives and fortune to create one of the greatest nations in recorded history. Protecting the culture they established is a worthy pursuit. Hang ups about racism or perceived inequities won't change that fact.
     
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  8. channingcrowderhungry

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    Your implication is that only the culture of the rich founders of a country matter. I guess the culture of people who helped build this country who didn't risk their fortunes somehow doesn't matter?
     
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    I'm for repatriating all illegals back to their home countries then figure out how many of them we really need... let some come back, after vetting them.
     
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  10. BLING

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    Way to prove wgb’s point to a T.

    Predominantly Anglo-Protestant? The U.S. is 40% Protestant, and I’d assume that includes black Baptist’s, so it isn’t even 40% white Protestant.

    There is a massive fatal flaw in this worldview of yours. There is no such thing as a singular “white culture”! If you think it exists, go ahead and define it. You call it “shared European identity” which is utter nonsense and completely laughable on its face. I implore you to brush up on a map of Europe, perhaps a world history book to familiarize yourself with the history of conflict and religious persecutions in Europe! Ironically, modern post WW2 Europe (and especially in this European Union one-market era) has all these same discussions about “preserving culture” - but for them that’s because the idea of crossing “state lines” freely is an entirely new thing.

    That is not to suggest we don’t still have influences, but this is not the same as “culture”. Over time I think it’s mostly become something else entirely, and America has evolved its own culture (or some might say has become uncultured). Very few people still live the lives of their ancestors, perhaps an insular group like the Amish, Native Americans that live their own way, etc, Maybe some fisherman or farmers that have done it for generations, etc. That sort of connection.
     
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  11. wgbgator

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    What is the "culture" they established? Please be specific here, as you are making this claim as if there is some well-understood American "culture" that is self-evident to us all. Early America had a great deal of Germans and of course, African slaves (and freemen) and Native Americans living here too. "Protestantism" isnt even a cohesive culture, as Southern Baptists are wildly different than Quakers, Lutherans or Unitarians.
     
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  12. mdgator05

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    One of the main reasons that states were given the power that they were given was the lack of a unifying culture. Pennsylvania, with its huge German population, differed substantially from Boston merchants of Puritan upbringing and both differed substantially from the Scotch-Irish Methodists of North Carolina. As pointed out "Protestant" isn't a religion (it is a family of denominations which often have relatively little in common). "White" is an ever changing social construct (e.g., see how Louisiana treated Italians when they first arrived vs. how they are treated now from a racial standpoint). And the majority of the country wasn't "Anglo" (i.e., English).

    Or, to quote an actual "Anglo person," Margaret Thatcher, "Europe was created by history, America by philosophy." This has never and, hopefully, will never be a blood-and-soil defined country. That is why the founders never established immigration laws to control entry (and why we had no broad set of laws until the 20th century for such things).
     
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  13. wgbgator

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    Sort of ironic, since all the richest most 'cultured' Americans for like the first 150+ years or so were trying to be European and thought America was a cultural backwater, and did everything they could to import European culture here. George Washington wasn't rocking out to proto-blues music on the plantation, eating hot dogs or strumming the banjo or anything iconically 'American.' He was probably more about trying the hottest dish in French high society, listening to chamber music or studying Prussian military tactics.
     
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    illegal /ĭ-lē′gəl/
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