Ok, so, Maxwell was tried and convicted in 2023 under Biden. Why would they release evidence in an ongoing investigation, and if there is not list, what were they releasing? They did release information, just not what you wanted. I have copies of her address book and there are several people with the last name "trump" on there. There are also people on it that you know weren't involved. Models, and just women in general. Steven Hawking? LOL. So what have we got here? Is there and has there ever been a list? If there never was a list, what group of people were bamboozled? Who is a liar in all this??
I think there was a list- again whatever copy you think you have I doubt it would withstand scrutiny - the Biden admin thru everything they could at Trump to try and get him off the ballot - if they could have tied him to Epstein they would have done so -
You have a point and the question should be asked why Biden didn’t release the Epstein files. In my opinion we can only speculate but a few possibilities do come to mind. 1. Most likely scenario in my mind is Biden was hands off with the Justice Department to a flaw leaving that decision up to Garland, who seemed hesitant to make any decisions that might look political. He was a disaster. 2. There really was no political advantage since Trump supporters would believe they were fabricated. 3. Least likely in my mind but still a possibility is the Epstein files conspiracy, that was created by Trump and a few of his family members and supporters, were left so the Trump administration would have to deal with it like they are now.
They released a ton of information, it was in the white binders the righty influencers had in their hands when they had that photo op. They thought they were getting new info. I have some of it, it's out there to find. It's an address book. I tried to upload a page, but it says the file is too big. If trump didn't break the law like he changes his shoes, he wouldn't have had a grand jury indict him. Edited to add: Some of the entries in the address book are outlined in red, and trump's has little hearts.
Is this the info you were talking about? Internet Archive: Digital Library of Free & Borrowable Texts, Movies, Music & Wayback Machine
I've never seen that page, but if you click on the address book, that could be it. What I have has no redactions.
Why was that what you expected at that time? Because MAGA pundits have been spewing bullshit for years? Because the Attorney General used the authority of her office to lie to your face? Your ability to start this thread and then call the subject of it a hysterical obsession of the left is why many think MAGA is a cult. Let's agree that Biden dems or anti-Trump FBI would have leaked damaging info about Trump. Can you agree that damaging info about prominent Dems would have been leaked under the 1st Trump admin, if not now? I've heard some reasonable explanations for why there might not be much incriminating evidence to release, but imagine the shit slinging insinuations from MAGA world if the Biden admin had come out and said there is no list. Now, after multiple appearances by AG Bondi on FoxNews making vile insinuations, after the Phase I binder photo op with MAGA 'influencers' this February at the Whitehouse, after Patel, Bongino, Habba, and Vance, etc... cast their conspiratorial doubts on national media, Trump is calling his own supporters 'stupid' and 'weaklings' for believing the 'Epstein hoax' and you roll over. Don't worry, only 3.5 more years.
Im not a hyperpartisan person and I think there is generally an ebb and flow to the levels of extremes regarding each party on various subjects. All I expect from a moderator is a modicum of objectivity and intellectual honesty. That doesnt mean I expect neutrality but the level of debate has suffered significantly in large part due to drive by snarks and refusal to articulate and expound on a particular claim even when asked respectfully.
nothing I posted there that at the time of the post that I did not think was true so we shall see I have always been in favor of total transparency by our leaders no matter which letter is at the end of their name- I just do not believe the left wants anything more than power and to destroy the Trump Presidency - and yes I do believe a great deal of those on the left are socialists - to think anyone on too hot could actually change what someone else believes is pretty preposterous to say the least
I'm gonna go off-topic here, but you repeatedly call the investigations into Trump's Russia collusion a "hoax" and I repeatedly provide what the Republican Senate Intelligence Committee provide as facts ..... ..... and you just ignore and then run from my posts. Does that make you possibly think that only some people cannot, or will not, change what they believe, by refusing to process very credible information that doesn't fit their narrative?
To be fair, there is only one rogue moderator in my opinion. I dont want to turn this into a critique about mods but again, I feel like all the other mods are respectful even if they dont agree with one side or the other.
