I doubt there is any actual "client sleep with underage females list" that Epstein had. They probably just have who went to his island list and his phone list. They published years ago what the victims were claiming and I remember a few people they pressed them on that went to that island the victims said they never had relations with them or knew if they had relations with other girls there. Can't remember the other names now except for Prince Andrew that a victim said they definitely had relations with them.
Interesting how Dershowitz has gone from "courts suppressed the list" to "no client list". I actually agree that the Bureau of Prisons, an agency under Trump's DOJ by the way may have assisted his suicide. If I recall his successful attempt to take his own life was preceded by at least one unsuccessful attempt. At a minimum he should have been under 24-hour surveillance and should have had a (presumably nonviolent) cellmate. While I don't believe that Epstein was murdered he was given the opportunity to commit suicide and based on his history a second attempt was likely.
No, that would be disgusting and beneath them. I don't even think they need to release a list of customers, just start arresting them. They have the evidence.
Well, gosh, that would mean that Donald Trump, Pam Bondi, Dan Bongino, and Kash Patel each lied to us for years...that can't be...
Trump doesn't want his base anymore: “Their new SCAM is what we will forever call the Jeffrey Epstein Hoax, and my PAST supporters have bought into this ‘bullshit,’ hook, line, and sinker,” Trump said. “They haven’t learned their lesson, and probably never will, even after being conned by the Lunatic Left for 8 long years.” The president expressed frustration that the controversy is continuing to dominate the news cycle, while lashing out at his supporters for giving the “success starved Dems” a reason to celebrate. “Let these weaklings continue forward and do the Democrats work, don’t even think about talking of our incredible and unprecedented success, because I don’t want their support anymore!” Trump added. This is classic gaslighting guys. Wow.
It says there’s hours and hours of videos, so not only is there a list, there’s an abundance of video evidence of crimes committed on Epstein island. The “list” is identifying the s.o.b.s in the videos. Now obviously they aren’t going to publicly release that material, not all may even be “illegal”, but what efforts have been made to identify and prosecute the perpetrators featured in those videos esp where the allegations are rape and/or underaged trafficked women?
good point and hopefully everyone agrees arrest those they can. Maybe there isn’t evidence besides names on a list? If the so-called ‘Epstein List’ is simply handed over to the press, it could ruin lives. Some might have been passengers on a flight, involved in a business deal, or connected through a mutual friend—completely innocuous reasons, yet still ended up on the list. I don’t trust the Trump admin, or Biden admin, to release fairly and properly redact names.
This resolution co-sponsored by Thomas Massie is what we need: Details on an immunity deals, non-prosecution agreements, plea bargains, and sealed settlements, including for government officials. No record may be withheld due to embarrassment, reputational harm, or political sensitivity. Victim information and child sexual abuse material should be withheld.
I doubt there’s a logbook of people committing crimes. But surely there are allegations and evidence showing a persons presence on the island at the time of an alleged rape or molestation. Blondi referred to copious amounts of child porn. Was this filmed on Epstein Island? Can they not ID any of the people in the videos? Not line it up with a single allegation??? I don’t believe that for a second. Obviously nobody expects them to release that material in raw form, but the govt should be forced to release “logs” of what they have from the case including what efforts were made to identify the perps in those videos.
Blaming Obama and Biden on this?Why not add Clinton, Pelosi, and throw in Tip O’Neil? Throw in a Kennedy for good measure! (Oops! Forgot he’s a member of the cabinet. Scratch that). I thought they were suppressing the release? Isn’t that what we were told for like 8 years now?
I highly doubt the feds have videos on anyone sleeping with underage girls that haven't already been indicted and/or named in previous articles of being named by the victims. Not sure what the age limit was on that island but I think it's like FL where it's 18 usually but a 16 or 17 can legally sleep with someone like 5 or 6 years older than themselves. So it sounds like they could have made a case against Prince Andrew if they thought they had enough evidence to convict him. Not sure why they never did except for the obvious political implications.
Perhaps not many agree with Massie’s principles, but I think we should appreciate that he at least has principles.
The longer this goes on, the more I believe Jr is in the files. Don Jr is being protected. OT: Now Don Jr has grabagun (NYSE PEW)
The bottom line is this guy should have been given a life sentence in 2006, except he got a sweetheart deal. Part of his thing was filming his girls through peepholes. Some because he was a pervert (he apparantly did things like film girls going to the bathroom). But he also taped people, powerful people and celebrities, for the purposes of blackmail. Knowing of these blackmail tapes its not hard to put 2+2 together as far as how he got a sweetheart deal. I always thought they probably buried a bunch of evidence back then when that crazy plea deal was struck. Maybe the govt has random perverted stuff Epstein had, but it’s the blackmail tapes that are conveniently “missing”.
thats f’ed up. I was unaware of what might be there to dig. I get too disgusted by it and the powerful getting away with it. Has anything leaked who might be involved?