Yes, Donald Trump is that stupid. He has done numerous things in his life that could’ve ended up with him in jail for the rest of his life. A jury found that he sexually assaulted E.Jean Carroll, in a changing room at a major department store in NYC. He also has allegedly sexually assaulted at least 30 females, including one who was 13 years old at the time. You could go on, and on with the crimes that this guy has committed that he assumed he would get away with. In the partial flight list that became public, he was on Epstein‘s plane going to who knows where at least seven times. Epstein said in an interview that Trump was his best friend for years. There seems to be quite a bit of evidence to that effect. So, if I had to pick out one famous person who I think was likely to have participated with Epstein in his pedophilia, it would be Trump.
It seems likely that Epstein worked for the CIA and Mossad. Many posters think MAGA is a top down cult. MAGA has always been bottom up. MAGA will not go along with an Epstein coverup. A major problem is that a lot of the evidence concerning Epstein's activities was disappeared.
A meme I saw a couple of days ago comes to mind with the caption reading "Biden didn't release the Epstein files because they included Bill Clinton's name. The Trump Administration isn't releasing the files because they include Donald Trump's name".
Why should I be required to provide PROOF? This is what I said: "It SEEMS LIKELY that Epstein worked for the CIA and Mossad." I asked my dear friend Grok to pretend he was a bettor. Would he bet that Epstein had worked with the CIA or Mossad or that he had never worked for either? Grok: I lean toward Epstein having worked for an intelligence agency, likely the CIA or Mossad, but with low confidence. The circumstantial evidence—Acosta’s claim about being told Epstein “belonged to intelligence,” his connections to figures like Robert Maxwell and Ehud Barak, and the suspicious leniency of his 2008 plea deal—tips the scale slightly in favor of some intelligence ties. These align with historical agency tactics like blackmail operations. However, the lack of concrete evidence, questionable sources like Ari Ben-Menashe, and plausible alternative explanations (e.g., Epstein as a wealthy opportunist with a strong legal team) keep it from being a sure bet. I’d wager he did, but it’s a shaky call, maybe 60-40, and I’d want more evidence before going all-in.
So with “low confidence”. And you’re asking why I gave you a “come on man” for posting that he was a member of those groups?
I don't think Epstein was an official member of the CIA or Mossad. It just seems likely to me (and Grok) that Epstein was selling videos and other evidence to Intel agencies that could be used to blackmail prominent people in governments and the private sector. The evidence is largely circumstantial. I was just wondering what you found objectional in my post (it didn't seem controversial to me).
They are all pointing fingers at each other as they all realize that this is a threat to their post-administration careers as story tellers for people who need to pretend reality is a tv show. https://www.axios.com/2025/07/11/epstein-files-dan-bongino-pam-bondi-trump
You're wondering what I found objectionable in your post.... vegasfox said: ↑ It seems likely that Epstein worked for the CIA and Mossad. Now it seems like you're walking back that statement. Even saying such ridiculous things as "I dont think Epstein was an official member of the CIA or Mossad". Does that mean you now think he was an unofficial member and if so, what exactly is an unofficial member.
The constant use of crap sources leads to constant crap conclusions. Please note the Nov. 25th , 2024 date of G. Maxwell's final appeal " NEW YORK, Nov 25 (Reuters) - A U.S. appeals court has rejected British socialite Ghislaine Maxwell's request to revisit its decision upholding her conviction for helping the late financier Jeffrey Epstein sexually abuse teenage girls. In an order on Monday, the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Manhattan denied Maxwell's request that all its active judges review her case, known as en banc review." If the Biden DoJ had released Epstein files prior , the effect upon an open case could have been serious or fatal to conviction.
One theory mentioned by Steve Sailer is that Epstein worked with the IRS Another theory from 2019 was that Epstein blackmailed his wealthy victims into each investing a few million dollars in to his offshore hedge fund, where he would get 2% of the invested money each year and 2 What I always meant was that Epstein was likely selling material that could be used to blackmail people. I'm not walking back anything
you're not walking back anything... you said: vegasfox said: ↑ It seems likely that Epstein worked for the CIA and Mossad. Now you mention that maybe he worked for the IRS. Perhaps you should list out government agencies that you think he didnt work for. Bottom line, you have no credibility on this board and this thread is a perfect example of why that is the case.
ZOMG! Whatever wild shit Pam Bondi says from 'I got the files on my desk' to 'I never said I had the files' to 'There's missing minutes in all of the security footage' - whatevs, she's just the Attorney General of the United States - but you, vegasfox, better have your facts straight with credible links to back it up!
