TX abortion ban causes more women to nearly bleed to death during miscarriage

Wrong. All the doctors had to do was note her life was in danger and perform anything necessary to save her. They chose not to. The Texas Supreme Court ruled it is not the courts job to be a doctor.

The Law is clear!

 

Then why did Barnica have to wait until doctors could legally act? And had they not waited, and gotten an abortion like Cox did, would she have died?

Also, why did Cox's doctors petition the courts to be able to legally perform an abortion when they did? A petition that ultimately, the Texas Supreme Court denied.

 

Because doctors failed her? I do not know? But it was not because of the Texas Law. The law is and has been clear! They had every right to protect the mothers they were caring for with an abortion if the mothers life was at risk.

Sadly I believe there are doctors who are/were willing to put a patients life at risk over this issue. If you think it is okay to kill the most innocent for convenience. Then it is easy to see how one would lack the moral character to do what it best for their patient imo. And sadly I think there are many like you (including doctors) that believe it is okay to kill a child for convenience via abortion.

 

What I think is irrelevant. And you really think multiple doctors, all OBGYN's, would break their hippocratic oath and purposely kill their patients? For what purpose?

Think logically. Why did Cox's doctors sue to allow for a legal abortion? Not because they wanted her to die. Because they wanted her to live. And who stopped the doctors from performing the abortion in Texas? The law, backed by a Texas Supreme Court judgement.

Now, in walks Barnica. She's in the same state as Cox was when she arrived at the hospital. The doctors knew the law prevented action at that moment, and forced her to wait until the doctors could legally act. But it was too late, and she died.

100 OBGYN Doctors in the state are angry and frustrated enough to sign a letter demanding to change the law. It's this the action of professionals wishing to cause harm and kill their patients?

You are grasping for straws accusing doctors wanting to harm people instead of actually placing the blame where it belongs. The law. It goes too far, and as a result, since the law has passed, Texas maternal mortality rate has skyrocketed. Forget what I want. Who wants more dead women because of a law? Apparently you do? Because gosh forbid you admit the law is the problem.

 

I am not grasping for anything. The law is clear. You have yet to show it not being clear.

No doubt some OBs are upset. A revenue stream was minimized in the name of protecting the most innocent from death via abortion. But nothing in the law prevents an abortion if the mother’s life is in jeopardy. To this point you have yet to own the lie you peddled about the heartbeat. But that is what you do when you think it is okay to kill a child for convenience legally.

 

How about LIFE. How about it allowing for them to be sued and they will then have to hire an attorney to defend themselves whenever anyone who believes they "killed a baby" takes action against them. Even if they are found innocent, you think they want that? Your state has made it more difficult for doctors to do their jobs. In doing so, they have put women's lives in danger.

 

It's called having a gay son. I don't get one of those talking points emails the crazy righties started sending out in 2015. I also don't listen to podcasts from influencers who are being paid by Russia.

 

Doctors that knew they were protected are no longer protected. A woman at risk is up for interpretation. The law doesn't clarify that. A woman's life isn't at risk unless death is imminent if she doesn't get help within minutes? Hours? Is the condition itself life threatening even though the fetus still has a heart beat? So many ways a pregnancy can go wrong with various timelines for her health going south.
I'm not a doctor, but there is an intellectual reason they are leaving states with these laws. Alabama has already had delivery departments in hospitals close due to that. Maybe you guys should have left Roe v Wade alone.

 

What a coincidence, so did gay people.

 

But nature didn't choose for gay ppl to make more gay ppl, nor dod nature choose or create marriage to reward, honor, and incentiveise the practice that serves to perpetuate our species, and to promote a stable and consistent structure to perpetuate not just our species, but culture and civilization.

Jolly homo unions provide nothing of the sort. Zero benefit to society or civilization. Just jollies for its participants, who are into that sort of thing.

Alcohol and doobage provide greater benefit to society.

 

I love 10 pages of mostly men having a conversation over what women should be able to do with their own bodies. How about this. Those of you who have decided it's wrong based on the bible, go ahead and move to a country where they make all their laws based on religion. Make sure you get your wives measured for a burka, I hear they run large.

 

So the only social benefits of marriage or monogamy are reproductive? Interesting view from a conservative! That seems stupid and inefficient, you should support fundamentalist Mormon-style polygamy, you can have way more children that way. Limiting yourself to one person to impregnate is a 9 month opportunity cost. There are more women than men too, so it helps balance things, right?

 

1. Why do you have to be able to reproduce? There are heterosexual couples who can't or don't want to reproduce. Do they bother you as much?
2. Are you in your marriage for jollies? Since nature made you that way? Nature did that to gay people too if it did it to you.
3. They do adopt children, just like heterosexual couples do. Yet we still have almost 500,000 children in foster care. Maybe we need more gay people getting married that want children. The more affluent gay couples pay a surrogate to have their child, also the women can be artificially inseminated.
4. They are one of the largest spending populous in the country, and contribute to our society significantly.


A 2015 report on businesses whose owners openly identified as LGBTQ+ found that they contributed $1.7 trillion to the economy and created over 33,000 jobs, though these estimates are not comprehensive.

America’s LGBT Economy Report - NGLCC

https://www.jec.senate.gov/public/_...34e472d07/pride-issue-brief-6.29.22-final.pdf

5. Alcohol provides more? More what? Domestic abuse? Drunk drivers who kill innocent people? Crime?

 

Whoah, that's too radical. The sane centrist position is mandatory divorce if you get your tubes tied / reach menopause!

 

Lol!

This thread has devolved into a strawman slaughter house...

 

Why are you even here arguing? You should be out there making babies, the perpetuation of the human species is your primary concern, it seems. Civilization is at stake!

 

What are you doing here?

Shouldn't you be protesting against productive ppl everywhere, promoting your beloved communism and government tyranny out in the real world, rather than masterbating on a message board?