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War in Ukraine

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by PITBOSS, Jan 21, 2022.

  1. vegasfox

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    If you think I've told a lie about the Ukraine war, give me a direct quote of the lie.

    The reality is that top geopolitical analysts around the world would agree overwhelmingly with just virtually everything I've posted on the war. They would laugh at your posts and analysis
     
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    I’m so sick of our lack of preparedness for prolonged near peer conflict. Both China and Russia are ramping up production while we basically hold our dicks in our hands. Trump admin appears to be doing more than Biden but it still doesn’t appear urgent enough.
     
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  3. chemgator

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    We have more important things to worry about, like military parades, shipping off space shuttles, bringing back coal, defeating solar & wind power, spreading bird flu, deporting our agricultural work force, having UFC championship fights at the White House. You know, WINNING ! ! !
     
  4. vegasfox

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    As I predicted early on, the vast majority of pollsters that had Kamala ahead of Trump were deliberately lying. I said they were paid to lie, to depress Republican fundraising and turnout and to increase Democrat fundraising and turnout. Because the reputation of the Democrat fake pollsters depended on the accuracy of their final polls, I predicted their final polls would move sharply towards Trump just before the election.

    Which is exactly what happened.

    Even so the final national polls still had Harris up 2% in the popular vote on average

    The reality is, as I stated more than once, Trump led Biden in the popular vote in 2023 and at no time did Trump ever relinquish his lead over Biden or Harris, all the way to Nov 5, 2024 (per Rich Baris).

    After the election David Plouffe admitted that at no point did Harris ever lead Trump.

    Take home lesson: My experts will virtually always beat your experts. You'll always be a day late and a dollar short.

     
  5. ATLGATORFAN

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    Yeahhhhh you can make fun of Trump for a lot of stuff and I’ll agree some and disagree some but you certainly can’t say he isn’t pushing defense spending through the roof. Allies now contributing 5% (150% increase ) toward defense. yesterday he just signed 150b into law including 30b for shipbuilding, 25b for golden dome and another 20b for drone and similar new tech just off the top.
     
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  6. CaptUSMCNole

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    "Russians are avoiding targeting Ukrainian civilians" sort of leaps of the page.

    You do not know who any top geopolitical analysts are because you have no idea what goes into making one.
     
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    So you think that there is a conspiracy among all the major polling outfits to prop up Harris to depress Republican fundraising? And you think that having all the polls within the margin of error would do that? Not to mention Trump was leading in enough of the swing states to get to 270? That what the secret plan you were able to crack the code on? That is really something.

    If you really knew what you were talking about, you would have stop looking at polls a week prior to Halloween and started tracking early voting. The election was already decided by then and polling was useless. Your experts where two weeks late. Go back and check my posts on this board the week prior to Halloween and you will see what I am talking about. I had multiple posts with some long time board members where they were trying to explain away the early voting advantages for Republicans in AZ and NV.
     
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    First off, the quote from Albright was about the sanctions put in place after the war, not during the war. So once again, get your facts straight.

    Second, no one in the IC will take MacGregor's phone calls at this point. He has be-clowned himself.

    Third, stop taking word of the Gaza Health Ministry. The IDF has a more restrictive targeting process than the US did in Iraq. If you had served in the military, you would understand what that means.
     
  9. chemgator

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    Spending on defense and defeating the enemy are two different things. Withholding support for an ally who is actually FIGHTING our enemy is foolish. Yes, there is a risk that we will not have enough weapons when we need them. However, there is a great reward in seeing your enemy defeated. Actually, there are multiple rewards.

    First, you will not have to worry about that enemy for another 30+ years (and if you are smart when you help re-build that country's economy, you will insist that they destroy most of their weapons factories first, and that way, they will be forced to resolve problems in a non-violent way and interact peacefully with their neighbors, so you may never have to worry about that enemy again). Wouldn't it be nice to have Russia as a functional part of civilization instead of watching them continue as barbarians?

    Second, your other enemies will take notice and back down from previous threats of violence against their neighbors (I'm looking at you, China). China has said as much--they would be in deep trouble with their aspirations towards their neighbors if Russia were to be defeated.

    Third, you will save trillions of dollars over the next decade or more on defense spending (and I know that because it actually happened during the 1990's).

    Peace is not something that is given or taken--it's earned. And achieving peace often requires taking (smart) risks.

    If all of your weapons are sitting on a shelf, their only utility is as a deterrent, and that may not be enough. Russians are constantly convincing themselves that their newest technology is the greatest in the world. Weapons on a shelf is also a waste of money if they never get used. Eventually they get old and become out-of-date and need to be replaced. We also spend a tremendous amount of money housing and maintaining our weapons, and keeping them secure.