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Kilmar Albrego tortured in El Salvador prison

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  1. Gator515151

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  3. VAg8r1

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    A little more context which may help explain Bukele's video of Abrego Garcia
    Kilmar Abrego García’s lawyers describe ‘severe beatings’ in El Salvador prison
    On April 9, nearly a month after arriving, Abrego and four others were transferred to a different part of CECOT, where they were photographed with mattresses and better food — “photos that appeared to be staged to document improved conditions,the filing says. The next day, Abrego alone was transferred to the Santa Ana penitentiary center, the filing says.
     
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    I bet the Nazis could have put together a few minutes of film on great they were treating the Jews in concentration camps, too…. It’s amazing how MAGA believes every lie they are told, like good little sheep.
     
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    Looks more like a Courtyard by Marriott than a prison. Gotta love the reverse osmosis fresh water tank in the cell.
     
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    1) Oppose deporting MS-13 criminals living illegally in the US, or else you're a fascist.

    2) Support ethnic cleansing and genocide for Palestinians living in their Gaza homes, or else you're an antisemite.
     
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    The Nazis actually did that with the Theresienstadt Concentration Camp. The camp was essentially a way station used by the Nazis to house Jewish inmates before they were transported to death camps like Auschwitz.
    Different from the "concentration camps" that the Nazis developed for forced labor and/or as part of the Final Solution, Theresienstadt constituted its own unique model. It was designed as a holding ground for three German Jewish populations: people over 65; both disabled German-Jewish veterans of World War I and those who had earned an Iron Cross; and, later, artists and intellectuals of some distinction. These populations retained the humanitarian interest of broad, loosely defined-constituencies whom the Germans sought to placate. In a conversation with Italy’s dictator and wartime ally Benito Mussolini, for example, SS Chief Heinrich Himmler described Thereseinstadt as a kind of retirement community where elderly Jews would continue receiving their pensions and other benefits. Theresienstadt, harsh as conditions actually were, functioned as a public relations veil for even more horrific Nazi operations. Finally, internees bestowed a legacy because of the positive lifestyle they created despite these and other hardships.
    Theresienstadt Concentration Camp | EBSCO

    The Nazis even invited the Red Cross for a tour of the camp to show how well they were treating the Jewish inmates of the camp.
    https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/theresienstadt-red-cross-visit
    Succumbing to pressure following the deportation of Danish Jews to Theresienstadt, the Germans permitted representatives from the Danish Red Cross and the International Red Cross to visit in June 1944. It was all an elaborate hoax. The Germans intensified deportations from the ghetto shortly before the visit, and the ghetto itself was "beautified." Gardens were planted, houses painted, and barracks renovated. The Nazis staged social and cultural events for the visiting dignitaries. Once the visit was over, the Germans resumed deportations from Theresienstadt, which did not end until October 1944.
     
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    Speaking only myself I have no problem with deporting MS-13 criminals however I do have a real problem with deporting persons suspected of being gang members based on flimsy evidence like tattoos while denying them due process. Not a fan of Netanyahu's bombing although keeping in mind that most of the Palestinian residents of Gaza who died would still be alive were Hamas not using them as human shields.
     
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    See post #8. What Bukele has done with the video isn't that much different than what the Nazis did with the Theresienstadt model concentration camp albeit on a much smaller scale. It was intended to create the illusion of humane treatment of inmates when the reality was exactly the opposite.
     
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    This page eschews left, but they have an interview with Andry Hernandez Romero's mother and best friend. Turns out he never entered the country even illegally, he was detained immediately and then sent to CECOT.



    REINA CARDENAS: [translated] Andry and I were in touch when he was in detention in the United States. He basically never entered the U.S. He was detained from the moment he showed up for his asylum appointment. That’s when this process began. One day, he called me and said, “Reina, they’re linking me to Tren de Aragua. I need you to get me photos, all the documentation from the Three Wise Men because of the crowns.” I sent these documents and evidence so that he could defend himself, something U.S. authorities never gave him the right to do. He never had due process.

    The Three Wise Men is an artistic organization, his crown tattoos were connected to that. The government is dismissing their cases now to make them go away. No one wants gang members here, but to coin an old phrase, we are throwing out the baby with the bath water just to make maga followers happy.

    Buklele is tied to MS 13 and he wants them back so they don't talk about that affiliation and how crooked he is. What a deal, he gets some of them back, plus 100's other bodies, and gets paid $6m each to boot! Suckahs!
     
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    ok, so what you're saying is that it may have looked like a courtyard but was really a motel 6? actually, he was staying a better place than a courtyard. Courtyard doesnt give free breakfast.
     
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    This is the reason that the government has refused to release the names of those that they sent there. Cato tried to study this issue and was only able to verify method of crossing for 90 detainees, while being unable to put names on many of them and only being able to put names but not link them to records on others. Of the 90 that they could verify, 50 had never committed an immigration violation. Reuters found roughly the same percentage out of their sample of 50 that they could verify.

    The US government disappeared a whole bunch of people who never committed any crime and sent them to a foreign prison to be tortured by a government that regularly tortures people and works with MS-13. Welcome to authoritarianism.
     
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    Just out of curiosity, what did people think third world prisons where like prior to this?
     
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    By US standards a lot of third world prisons would be considered inhumane. That being said Bukele established CECOT specifically as an inhumane facility to both punish and deter gang membership. Even if it's been effective at achieving that goal in El Salvador that still doesn't justify the barbaric treatment of its inmates and definitely doesn't justify the deportation of illegal immigrants from the US based on very flimsy evidence that they may be gang members and without due process and especially if they were never citizens of El Salvador.
     
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