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Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by ETGator1, Jun 24, 2025.

  1. gatorrob87

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    Will see if those holdouts get “Eloned” in the next election. Wouldn’t that be ironic?
     
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  3. vaxcardinal

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    All these hospitals announce closing way before any cuts go into effect. I think they’re using this as an excuse for other financial issues
     
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    Republicans truly don’t seem to believe in shared social services (or at least the bare minimum) unless it has to do with defense.

    Will be interesting to see what happens when the road meets the rubber.
     
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    And do you figure they would have still announced closing if funding had been increased instead of slashed? Because that's what needed to happen.
     
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  6. vaxcardinal

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    I’m guessing they would have eventually closed
     
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    As the rural hospital expert I'm certain you must be, would you think that those hospital boards looking at their net profits being below, say 10%, perhaps see a new bill that will wipe out that 10% so they saw no reason to draw it out? I'm no expert but if that were the case maybe they throw in the towel.
     
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    No
     
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  9. BLING

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    What’s crazy about the anticipated hospital closures is pretty much everyone looking at this is talking about red state rural areas being hit the worst. I.e. that these right wing politicians are doing this to their own people.

    I’m sure there must be urban hospitals which cater more towards the poor that will also take financial hits or even close, the difference is maybe in denser areas at least some nearby hospitals partially pick up the slack (still bad for access and wait times). When a rural hospital closes there may not be a decent facility for 50 miles. No way those situations don’t cause loss of life.
     
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  10. GatorFanCF

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    Incomplete assessment.
    Republicans/Political Right give more of both their money AND time to others than Democrats/Political Left
    Source: Who Really Cares
    Arthur Brooks.

    Republicans just aren’t keen on other people taking their money and deciding where it goes (taxes/government)
     
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  11. l_boy

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    The book was 2006

    Who Really Cares: The Surprising Truth About Compassionate Conservatism - Book - Faculty & Research - Harvard Business School

    The demographics of the parties have changed rather dramatically in the past 20 years.

    As to the giving, the giving is mostly to their own church, and most of the money given to the church, goes to the operation of the church (building operations, paying preachers, clergy, etc). Many people go to church because they think if they don’t they will go to Hell. So I am not sure I buy this 20 year old assessment, even back then