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War in Ukraine

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by PITBOSS, Jan 21, 2022.

  1. CaptUSMCNole

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    Thank you for admitting you are a Russian Troll.

    I was more paying attention to the NATO Secretary General. But I'm sure he is also trying to "oppress the Russian-speaking majority in the Donbas"
     
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  2. vegasfox

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    Calling me a "Russian troll" would be like me calling you a troll for anti-Palestinian racists and apologists for Gaza genocide who say I'm an antisemite because I oppose Zionism and Israeli foreign policy initiatives that have helped get America into several wars. . But I never did that because I respect the board rules

    Just so you know, a large percentage of Jews oppose Zionism and Netanyahu's foreign policy.
     
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  3. CaptUSMCNole

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    I'm not the one here saying Putin and Lavrov are the ones telling the truth. You are. You are taking the side of the people that employed the Wagner Group, who handled deserters by executing them via sledgehammer.
     
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  4. vegasfox

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    I said "for the most part'" Putin and Lavrov "push reality," like I do.

    I googled "Lavrov transcript" and this was the first thing to pop up. Lavrov is plain spoken and logical. Where you disagree with the facts he presents is likely where you've gotten your facts wrong

    Lavrov interviewed by Tucker:
    FULL TRANSCRIPT: Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov’s Interview To Tucker Carlson
     
  5. CaptUSMCNole

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    You push a reality but just not the one you think.
     
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    This also comes to mind.
    Despite Kremlin claims, 82% of Russian-speaking Ukrainians view Russia negatively, poll shows
    As does this:
    Battles in Ukraine Show Putin Was Wrong About the Country's Russian Speakers
    The Kremlin thought Russian troops would be greeted as liberators in Ukraine's predominantly Russian speaking south and east. Instead, Ukrainians of all linguistic backgrounds have rallied against the Kremlin's invasion.

    This should not have come as a surprise, least of all to the men in Moscow. Russian speaking Ukrainians have been organizing to defend the Ukrainian state from Russian aggression since at least April 2014, when Moscow-backed forces first began seizing administrative buildings in the Ukrainian Donbas region.

    "In the first week after those events started, ordinary steelworkers in Mariupol were organizing on the grassroots level to form local patrols," Dr. Olga Onuch, an associate professor at the University of Manchester, told Newsweek. "These were Russian speaking Ukrainians getting together to defend their neighborhoods and their families from Russia itself."

    "Ukrainians have an attachment to place, and that attachment extends to their state," Onuch added. "In the past eight years, that attachment has only grown. And yet Russian intelligence continues to make the repeated miscalculation that Russian language equals Russian identity."
     
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  7. vegasfox

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    My reality is the same as John Mearsheimer's, Stephen F Cohens RIP, Greg Copley's, the podcast The Duran and on and on and on. Funny how we see 1 reality and you and the MSM see something else. The NY Times is known for spreading State Dept BS narratives, the WaPo spreads CIA narratives. Then the rest of the MSM all too often follows their leads. If you don't want to get suckered try following top X accounts with good reputations. For some reason you like to push institutional narratives
     
  8. CaptUSMCNole

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    I'm good just seeing it through the reporting of the US IC and have done this multiple times so understand most of it based off personal experience.

    But you have never worked in Intel. Never served in the military. Never been on a battlefield. But yet, you want to tell me how things that you do not understand, actually work. You seem to be easily led down the road of conspiracy theories by fifth rate "experts," yet you want to explain my profession to me.
     
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  9. CaptUSMCNole

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    The War Crimes that Russia is committing in Ukraine are so awful, I do not bring them to this board because they would make any American sick to their stomach and question the how evil like that is permitted to exist in this world. It would also likely violate the rules of what is permitted to be posted. Executing someone by crushing their skull with a sledge hammer is the tip of the iceberg. That alone should make anyone suggesting Putin is telling the truth more often than not to to take a very, very deep look at what they believe and question it.

    That is why I continue to engage with the posters that do it. I want to make sure that they show themselves to being OK with that level of evil.
     
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  10. CaptUSMCNole

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    There is no Harvard Study that says that. Only someone that has no clue what they are talking about would suggest it. So prove me wrong and post a link to the Harvard Study.

    If you want to compare Israel to Russia, you are just proving my point.
     
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  11. vegasfox

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    Many Ukrainians seem to be fond of Nazis and Nazi sympathizers, which explains the statues erected that honor Stepan Bandera

     
  12. CaptUSMCNole

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    Where is the Harvard Study you cited?
     
  13. vegasfox

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    I deleted the post. The 377,000 figure that was widely reported has been retracted.

    Wiki Gaza Genocide is bad enough:
    Gaza genocide - Wikipedia
     
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  14. vegasfox

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    I think you parrot institutional narratives. How many COVID shots did you get? I got zero.

    I couldn't care less if you have an Intel background. Other people who I think are smarter than you also have Intel backgrounds and their opinions differ from yours.
     
  15. CaptUSMCNole

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    What types of Intel backgrounds do they have?
     
  16. CaptUSMCNole

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    Oh that post still exists on this board above. There was a reason I quoted it, so you could not delete it after you figured out it was fake. Must be a little embarrassing to claim there is a Harvard Study that showed 377k Palestinians have gone missing, when a simple Google search would should that was false. Do you not fact check the smarter Intel people you follow?

    I'm going to help you out on this one:
    Gaza Health Ministry = Hamas.
    Do you really trust what Hamas claims?
     
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  17. vegasfox

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    What do you define as "Intel background." Working for corrupt government institutions?
     
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  18. vaxcardinal

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    What a coincidence
     
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  19. vegasfox

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    I never believed the 377K figure was necessarily accurate. It was a widely reported figure. I let you vet it for me.Obviously the report misled many. Doesn't matter. Tens of thousands of innocent Palestinians have been genocided and ethnically cleansed.

    Vet this


    Regarding civilians in Ukraine killed by Russians:
    1) For every 100 Ukrainian military killed by Russia how many Ukrainian civilians have been killed?

    2) For every 100 Iraqi soldiers killed by the US in the Iraq war how many Iraqi civilians were killed by the US?

    3) Who did a better job of killing soldiers while sparing civilians, the US or Russia?
     
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    Chilling and now with sirens …