Welcome home, fellow Gator.

The Gator Nation's oldest and most active insider community
Join today!

Stadium Renovations

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by plantado, Jun 25, 2025.

  1. Crusher

    Crusher GC Hall of Fame

    6,866
    1,653
    2,143
    Apr 19, 2007
    I've given mine, and I think yours is absolutely correct. They need to present to the stakeholders a case of why a massive renovation is needed right now with all the uncertainty around major college football. When Stricklin spouts that ADA and deferred maintenance forces renovation (dubious claims at best) it makes me think the true agenda is hidden. Tell me the real reason for Crissakes...maybe I would agree if there was an honest conversation.
     
    Last edited: Jul 3, 2025 at 1:40 PM
    • Like Like x 1
  2. Wanne15

    Wanne15 GC Hall of Fame

    19,950
    5,046
    3,088
    Jan 18, 2015
    I wont go to the swamp and sit up tgere, id rather be in my living room. I winder how many sre willing to sit up there if thousands more are moved up.
     
    • Agree Agree x 3
  3. Crusher

    Crusher GC Hall of Fame

    6,866
    1,653
    2,143
    Apr 19, 2007
    The sidelines are already so close there isn't any room to extend at the bottom. Concrete rows also make a pretty solid item to change the rise and run just by deleting rows. A jackhammer will be necessary. I think they know a couple of things already (really common sense):
    • The current upper 60ish rows can't support chairbacks because the angle of the stadium gets steeper and the run is way too short.
    • The lower bowl will probably support all chairbacks since the run is wider vs the rise (the upper 2-3 rows in each lower bowl endzone are already chairbacks), but thousands of seats will have to be eliminated to bring aisles egress and ingress up to code and add the necessary ADA features a renovation will require (aisles in the entire stadium,not just the renovated areas).
     
    • Informative Informative x 1
  4. iam4uf

    iam4uf GC Hall of Fame

    14,101
    9,495
    2,963
    Apr 12, 2007
    Gainesville
    The information I've read indicates seats will be reduced to 83k. What info have others seen stating the capacity will remain about the same?
     
  5. tegator80

    tegator80 GC Hall of Fame

    14,036
    21,467
    3,363
    May 29, 2007
    Richmond, VA
    Nothing wrong with your take, it is just that drunken sailors, or drunken sailor wannabes, are running amok. As long as the optics appear as if a LSU is getting ahead of us - even though they haven't won a damn thing of note during the Kelly era - the sailors see a chance to "catch up". And so, spend away!

    As you say, we are in a HUGE transitional period. But that is a double-edged sword. And personally, I prefer the philosophy that if there isn't a true consensus and conviction (no damn 55 percent voter agreements!), you stay pat. You can't undo money you spent. But you CAN spend it at a later date. Too bad I am a dinosaur.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  6. Wanne15

    Wanne15 GC Hall of Fame

    19,950
    5,046
    3,088
    Jan 18, 2015
    If you fall behind, you are still behind. College football at the top is not going anywhere. I do think many teams will fall way behind and the second tier will be very large.will the top few teams ever get together andmake dome sort of manageable cap and have a legitimate system to run things or will they stick with this highest bidder thing. For now its a free for all and i doubt it's profitable to give a freshman edge 750k while you're probably paying several more. How big can a legit payroll be for college football and still at least break even. Getting 20 mil through the schools would at least probably make the payroll tax deductible i guess. The financial part sucks but it's someone else's money so i dont care too terribly much.
     
  7. tegator80

    tegator80 GC Hall of Fame

    14,036
    21,467
    3,363
    May 29, 2007
    Richmond, VA
    Um, if what you are behind is a run towards a steep cliff and your peers are charging with blind fury, you think it wise to go along? Didn't your mother teach you about the hazards of groupthink?
     
  8. Gatorhead

    Gatorhead GC Hall of Fame

    18,968
    6,625
    3,313
    Apr 3, 2007
    Philadelphia
    Hmmm te, so you are suggesting this whole deal is tantamount to neolithic hunters running buffalo off cliffs?
    I really can't find fault here............... well done!
     
    • Fistbump/Thanks! Fistbump/Thanks! x 1
  9. Gatorhead

    Gatorhead GC Hall of Fame

    18,968
    6,625
    3,313
    Apr 3, 2007
    Philadelphia
    If you fall behind, you are still behind. College football at the top is not going anywhere. I do think many teams will fall way behind and the second tier will be very large.

    BINGO! I have been parroting this myself, if the current madness stays in place, how can there NOT BE a serious consolidation separating the haves
    from the have not's? I fully expect either two or 4 leagues to emerge (probably two) with (aro) 32 - 40 or so teams playing what is now called power 5 football, on what will eventually evolve into an NFL "light" model. Everyone else is reclassified or will "drop" football.
     
  10. Wanne15

    Wanne15 GC Hall of Fame

    19,950
    5,046
    3,088
    Jan 18, 2015
    Or maybe theres no cliff and youre program tanks. We fell behind two decades ago and are just now sorta catching up. This is one of those shit or get off the pot moments although a cushy seat wont help us win games one single bit. Id think the 5* receiver and the 5* edge yesterday would be a better financially viable investment than paying for my comfort. Give the big boosters their suite no doubt because they are paying for it but tv contracts care about wins and nothing about our comfort.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • Creative Creative x 1
  11. archigator_96

    archigator_96 GC Hall of Fame

    4,336
    3,684
    1,923
    Apr 8, 2020
    Sorry to disappoint you but my firm didn't get the project. :D
     
    • Funny Funny x 2
    • Like Like x 1
    • Friendly Friendly x 1
  12. Wanne15

    Wanne15 GC Hall of Fame

    19,950
    5,046
    3,088
    Jan 18, 2015
    They got someone who can do it cheaper is my favorite line. If price is an issue, theres no need on me wasting my time to bid.
     
  13. Wanne15

    Wanne15 GC Hall of Fame

    19,950
    5,046
    3,088
    Jan 18, 2015
    I seriously doubt there are anywhere close forty teams that can compete on the same level. Nfl cap is not only the ceiling but the floor also. If you cant afford to play the game, get down to the second tier. Buy in or go to the table you can afford to play.
     
    • Informative Informative x 1
  14. tegator80

    tegator80 GC Hall of Fame

    14,036
    21,467
    3,363
    May 29, 2007
    Richmond, VA
    The mother of all deaths in publicly funded projects:


    Coming in second place. If you are a seasoned professional consultant, you get the meaning.
     
  15. archigator_96

    archigator_96 GC Hall of Fame

    4,336
    3,684
    1,923
    Apr 8, 2020
    Meh, with public work like this they aren't allowed to make fee a part of it but it doesn't stop them from asking about it. Unlike lawyers that all charge pretty much the same thing, there's always an Architect who says he will do it for less.
     
    • Informative Informative x 1
  16. archigator_96

    archigator_96 GC Hall of Fame

    4,336
    3,684
    1,923
    Apr 8, 2020
    If you ain't first, your last.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  17. Wanne15

    Wanne15 GC Hall of Fame

    19,950
    5,046
    3,088
    Jan 18, 2015
    And then there is a floor joist under my toilet
     
    • Funny Funny x 2
  18. tegator80

    tegator80 GC Hall of Fame

    14,036
    21,467
    3,363
    May 29, 2007
    Richmond, VA
    If you are dead last, you are prepared to change course. If you are in second place, you may try to stay the course because you think highly of your strategy. And usually, that is a disaster, because you do not understand what separated you from the winner(s). It ain't the same as playing the lottery.
     
  19. Gatorhead

    Gatorhead GC Hall of Fame

    18,968
    6,625
    3,313
    Apr 3, 2007
    Philadelphia
    And a construction management team
    and a General Contractor
    and all the trades involved ..................

    "Just give me their number and I will beat it by 5%"

    Of course this spiral of getting "low" can be never ending or lead to chapter 11 if the project is big enough.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  20. archigator_96

    archigator_96 GC Hall of Fame

    4,336
    3,684
    1,923
    Apr 8, 2020
    We've been there and have even told the client that if that other firm will do it for that then God bless them, they can have it. For some companies it's more about having the cash flow through the business rather than making a profit (or even breaking even
    We have been in that position and have told the client that if that other firm can do it for less then God bless them, let them do it. For some companies it's more about having the cash flow through the business rather than making a profit or breaking even.
     
    • Informative Informative x 1